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miles was a junkie for most of his life so what does that have to do with anything? and people from gil fuller to marcus miller would disagree with "singlehandedly".
Originally Posted by ronjazz
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03-20-2021 08:31 AM
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Izzy always had nice guitars at a time when the market was all about superstrats.
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Celine Dion sold more copies of her album. Bigger act than G&R! Originally Posted by djg
elton john is not a band. and G'nR's debut album sold better than anything elton john has ever recorded, so there
List of best-selling albums - Wikipedia
I can imagine that they are bigger in the US than they are in Europe. I don't think over here people will name G&R if you ask them to make a list of big acts.
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Yes celine dion sold more copies, so what’s the point? Noone is disagreeing with you. Only one denying facts and numbers is you it seems. Top 35 best selling act EVER is not big enough for you? Originally Posted by Marcel_A;[URL="tel:1107600"
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.
(Just a joke. A guns n roses fan will get the reference)
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Nope .. I'm European. They where HUGE over here too Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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Sure it's big, but i wouldn't refer to them as being one of the biggest acts ever. The Beatles and Elvis are amongst the biggest acts ever. Not G&R. Originally Posted by waltf
If i step on a too saying that, well . . . .
This Izzy guy no-one ever heard off started this whole thing. He was (according to lobomov) the glue in a band that was one of the biggest ever.
Lobomov is exagerating it a bit. To say the least.
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Well funny you bring up Elvis. Apparently guns n roses has as many digital single sales as elvis and more streams. If we’re talking about bands, what lobomotov said, they are nr 16 so only 15 bands ever sold more. Definitely exagerating
Shame on him. Thanks for putting him in his place!
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Ah, the band argument. If you play it right you get them into some sort of top 3 i am sure.
The best all male, all white, all uneducated, 5 piece, originating from LA, band in the world.
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All arguments aside, I've decided to not purchase this guitar.
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correction: 34 acts in the world sold more records ever
. Shame on lobomotov. Thanks for calling him out!
What would the internet be without people like you..
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I hear he finally got away from hollow bodies. He didn’t like the feedback he was getting.
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Is it just me or has that guitar kind of... yellowed a bit? Makes no difference, no one here will buy it, nor should they. There's sucker born every minute. $50K is the starting bid. Maybe look into a pre-owned Lexus or BMW?
And listing bands with individual acts seems a bit off. There are very few "bands" in those lists above. Bands play instruments and lots of instrumental music. Most of the big sellers on those lists are individual singers who change out bands and band members frequently.
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Anyone that wants either of my 175's for $40K, I'll throw in the second one for free!
Peace!
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Is at least one of them white?
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For 40k, I'll paint them the color of your choice! Originally Posted by ccroft
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This thread reminds me that the difference between a rock guitarist and a jazz guitarist is that one plays 5 chords in front of 10,000 people and with the other it is just the opposite.
That said, I have heard jazz musicians put down musicians of other genres for years, and sometime jazz musicians who have done well financially are put down by jazz musicians who have not done as well.
Personally, I admire those who do well and I have little regard for those who put them down or try to take them down. If someone has 50K to spend on a celebrity owned guitar, more power to them.
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The ’80s was synth pop, snare drums spoiled with Yamaha SPX90 reverb and new wave goth rock. Then came the G&R and brought back the rock’n’roll and Gibson guitars.
Miles would have taken some G&R hit on his record and made it his own hit.
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Miles still lived during the 80’s.
For the record: I am not putting down g and r. I don’t think they are amongst the biggest acts ever.
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Yes, I know. For awhile I thought to use word ’should’ ... but then I didn’t. Originally Posted by Marcel_A
Anyway, Izzy used some cool jazzy guitars. Maybe he had some idea in his mind when he choose them? Or maybe they were cheap at the time!
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Reminded me of a story. When I was a graduate student in the late 1980s, I had a radio show on the campus station playing world music. One night I played an enka song by Harumi Miyako, which I introduced as Japanese popular music and then asked listeners if anyone might be able to help translate the lyrics. A listener called who was hosting a Japanese exchange student. Although the student hadn't heard the show that night, she was thrilled that popular music from Japan had been played on the campus radio station. But when I met the student, she appeared uncomfortable after I asked about the lyrics to "Horecha tandayo," which turned out to mean "I fell in love with you." She politely added that enka was "ojisan music," popular music for old people. When I asked her what kind of music she enjoyed listening to in Japan, without missing a beat she replied, Guns n' Roses! Originally Posted by Lobomov
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They were bigger in the US. The first album sold 30 million copies of which more than half were sold in the US. The other 12 or 13 million in the rest of the world.
I am from 1968 so I was very much into music in that period. In Holland they were big in the sense that they had a number of enormous hits. They were not huge. The Beatles were huge. Prince was huge. Michael Jackson was huge. Guns and roses were a big succes. There is a difference.
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I'm glad we came to the conclusion that GNR was a big succes but not huge and that noone has ever heard of Izzy Stradlin.
Hopefully we can all get some sleep now.
Here's some nice trivia about guns n roses on youtube (the article is from 2017)
Guns N’ Roses are officially the biggest act of the ‘80s and ‘90s on YouTube, Forbes reported.
Read More: Guns N’ Roses Are Biggest ‘80s and ‘90s Band on YouTube | Guns N’ Roses Are Biggest ‘80s and ‘90s Band on YouTube
“November Rain” is the first music video from the 1990s to reach the billion-view milestone, and the first one created before the YouTube era to do so. The band's video for “Sweet Child O' Mine" is also the most-viewed YouTube video for a song from the 1980s.
The “November Rain” video was released 26 years ago and its continued success shows the growing popularity of catalog songs as an income generator. The song averaged nearly 560,000 views every day in 2017. Its hits are actually increasing in recent years, with its peak daily views reached on November 25, 2017.
The biggest 1990s YouTube videos after “November Rain” are “Zombie” by The Cranberries with 739 million views, and Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” with 727 million.
Music videos off the Guns N’ Roses albums Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II also include “Don’t Cry,” with 471 million views, and “Estranged,” with more than 111 million. The biggest video on YouTube released in the 1980s is “Sweet Child O’ Mine,” with more than 692 million views.
The YouTube Music statistics show that Guns N’ Roses is popular outside the U.S., with 83% of its 2018 total views from other countries, led by Brazil, Mexico, Argentina and Colombia.
Now their tour is in its ninth leg and has already grossed $480 million, with some 30 shows to go through to the end of November. It is already the fourth highest-grossing tour of all time, taking about $3.85 million a show – much as predicted, though behind the total takings of Coldplay, The Rolling Stones and U2.
Guns N' Roses Heads For $500 Million Tour Earnings As 'November Rain' Sets YouTube Record
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Originally Posted by waltf
But .. but .. but ... You know ... The Beatles!
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@Waltf
You are shopping for convenient lists. Most viewed youtube movie of the 90's? Is that a list of bands? Or are individual artists alowed?
Here a list of the most viewed youtube movies ever:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...YouTube_videos
Guns and roses did't make the list. If that doesn't proove anything (which it doesn't) your list certainly doesn't.
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And nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people...kinda validates h.l. mencken over and over and over and over ad nauseam. Originally Posted by waltf
Who's izzy whatshisname?
p.s. kinda unfair to lean into izzy because he is NOT the one who is trying to profiteer off this guitar associated with him. it's that sleazebag "music industry veteran" who probably paid all of $1500-about all a late norlin gibson es-175 in that condition is worth- for it. parents, please don't let your children grow up to be musicians.
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