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Cav, not a bad idea to find a beater GJS. Not for me though. I got this thing about shiny and new.
If the 175 didn't feel so right in my hands, I probably would have done the frets on the GJS without hesitation.
A have a friend who has been telling me to get my hands on an L4CES for a while now.
I don't have an endless cash supply. I could sell my HJS and get an L4 and be done with it. But something just keeps telling not to sell the HJS. There is an attachment. Maybe it's because my hero signed the label that was later placed on an absolutely outstanding guitar.
I will probably stick with what I have for now and save my money for an L4. I love the 4 guitars that I have now. The L4 will be #5.
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12-31-2016 03:12 PM
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That was SICK!!!
Originally Posted by medblues
Wow.
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Thanks C74. Originally Posted by citizenk74
It's not drama, Joe, it's friends helping friends find solutions to problems, and sharing the joys and occasional frustrations of being good caretakers of these hunks of wood and wire we all love to play and play with. it's all good, man.
I have made a lot of mistakes in my quest to find the setup I have now. I've been incredibly impatient and because so,
I've pissed a lot of money away on guitars. In the last year alone I've lost enough money to have easily afforded an L4CES.
I need to grow up, be more careful and make better decisions. Luckily, now I have guitars that I absolutely love and have an emotional attachment to.
I will chill for a while.
Thank you everyone who has tried to help me.
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JD, with all of the amazing guitars that I own, I still gravitate to my 175s. Something about a 175 just feels right.
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SS, I am so glad to hear that.
Thats all the redemption I need, right there. The 175 really is, just right.
i just played mine for 2 hours. My fingers and my head outlasted my back.
Happy New Year Everyone.
Joe D
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great thread..twists n turns
decision required + decision reached + decision refused = new guitar needed
it always equals that!!!
cheersLast edited by neatomic; 12-31-2016 at 06:14 PM.
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It is said that the answer to the question of how many guitars a man needs is simple: Just one more!
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For what you get, and for what you have to give to get it, an L4 CES is a ' no brainer ' best buy, and has been for a long time. Originally Posted by Max405
And as long as the market keeps swooning over 175's, they'll continue to be money well spent !
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While I wouldn't presume to say what should or shouldn't be done to the JS, in the case of my Guild X700, the frets were very narrow (approx: .085" X .039"). I wasn't comfortable playing the guitar, so I had the Jescar gold Evo wire installed (.104" X .047"). All I can say is that I love those big fat frets!
In support of a re-fret, a luthier is likely to re-plane and level to a proper radius the fretboard removing any imperfections that age may have inured, making for low buzz-free action. The Guild X700 now plays like butter!!! Devalued? I don't care.
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Wow Helios, they look really nice.
This is actually the 1st time I'm seeing them. I envisioned the .104. X .047 being too large but that looks just right. They shine up beautiful and the gold color is obvious. I really like the look.
I appreciate showing pictures. That is extremely helpful.
Thanks, Joe D
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JD, it sounds like you need to play your 175 and think about this refret for awhile longer...
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I have Jescar EVO fret wire on almost all of my guitars. On archtops, I like the .055" x .090" wire and on my flat tops I like .043" x .080" wire. I highly recommend that you and your luthier consider it. LMI sells it in small quantities if they don't already have it. Originally Posted by Max405
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Helios did you buy the fretwire pre-cut? The first and second pics show some frets not covering the full width of the neck.
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Could that just be a trick if the lighting? They look flush with edge on the last pic. Originally Posted by gcb
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7, that says a lot right there. They are nice frets. Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7
That about sounds right Marco. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
The wheels are turning..
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I'm liking the look and reviews of the EVO wire very much. All of this talk has me giving serious consideration to taking the plunge with my GJS.
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Hi, Originally Posted by gcb
It's a lighting thing. When the luthier removed the original thin Guild fretwire, he was puzzled that the fret tangs (portion seated into the fretboard) didn't extend to the edge of the fretboard (about 1/4" shy on each side). Although the Guild X700 hadn't been played much prior to my receiving it, the luthier felt the frets would have eventually posed a problem had I not had them changed. He said he had seen another Guild that had frets poorly done at the factory.
Considering the workmanship on the rest of the guitar, the shoddy Guild frets were a puzzle.
The photo was taken on a pool table so the lighting isn't great. The frets look awesome in person!
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Actually the fret tangs not extending all the way to the end is a feature of a certain kind of fret installation in which the fret extends over the top of the binding without the tang cutting down into the binding. Dan Erlwine talks about this technique in his book Fret Work. Originally Posted by helios
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Hi guys,
heres a couple of pics with the new pickguard that I installed today. I had 2 pickguards made, I didn't like either one. One had cracked binding and the other had the volume knob in the wrong place. So I bought a replacement L5 guard from Allparts. The binding in the AllParts Guard was exactly like the original, in both look and color. The shape is identical to the Johnny Smith Guard too. So I got my Dremel out and notched it. I used the original as a template for the holes. Drilled them, and countersunk them so the new brass nuts bolts and wood screws layed flat. I used p21s all purpose polish (great for plastic) to finish the guard.
For the felt pad spacer, I used a piece of a block of hard felt and cut it to size and glued the little piece of leather into it, that touches the body. Perfecto.
Im still in the fence about the frets. After seeing the evo frets on Helios's guitar, I am contemplating it once again.
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nice job joe D.....looks good...(good dremeling?!)... tho not crazy about gold knob
get fret job and new guitar..nip it in the bud..haha
hny!
cheers
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Thanks buddy.
Thats Gibsons replacement. Exactly like the original. The original got Greennitroitus from the plague set forth by the rapidly deteriorating original pickguard.
JD
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Nice!
I'm still looking for the same screw to attach the PG to the body, wouldn't know where to get one - and a bracket. So far i found only the knob and the two other screws.
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Originally Posted by Max405
Im still in the fence about the frets. After seeing the evo frets on Helios's guitar, I am contemplating it once again.
Joe - -are those the frets you're thinking of replacing ? I've seen you refer to them as ' non-existent'.
Are they original, or are they those 'fretless wonders' ? They look original & also look to have enough meat on them from this angle. Are they worn and now too low ?? I can't seem to upload photo's but the ( original ' skinny' ) frets on my L-7 are about 1/2 the width of these. They're the ones that I thought you had - -these sure don't look like mine.
Scratching my head....
What's wrong with them ? ( Sorry if I missed the exact reason for you wanting to change them ).
Dennis
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Hey Dennis,
These frets are just as they were when they were new. They are very wide and very shallow.
Easy to fly around on but not as easy to play other stuff on like a guitar that has medium Jumbo's - ala, L5 frets..
JD
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Well, I'll be... Originally Posted by Max405
If there's no buzzing anywhere, and you've got good string tension, maybe you leave them and do your best to wear them out asap ?? And then refret.
Anyway, good luck with it !!
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