The Best Reverb Pedal?

**jorgemg1984** · 09-22-2012, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by 4thstuning

The only other pedal I have is a MXR carbon copy delay pedal. It's a love/hate relationship. I was using it instead of reverb for a while but that got tiring.

Inexplicably I've never combined it with reverb - maybe it's like chocolate and peanut butter.

I actually don't like delay used as reverb and love the combination of both.

In my case I have a small board just for acoustics and I am getting a EQD Dispatch Master to sue there because it has reverb and delay in one pedal. Could be one backup for two pedals for you

**David B** · 09-23-2012, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Hi David. You're the first person I see comparing the BS with the Flint; just by the specs I would like the Flint much more - are the reverbs on the Flint that much superior to the BS?

Thanks

Definitely different to the blueSky, which is a reverb tweaker's dream. I eventually got bothered about the lack of a hall reverb in the BS, though I was able to get some good large room sounds.

Before the Flint, I used an old Lexicon LXP-1 in hall mode and missed that sound. When I got the Flint, I expected to use hall mode only but each of the three reverbs are really useable. It's hard to find a bad sound in it.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-23-2012, 07:31 AM

Yes, I also noticed the absence of hall in the BS - the Flint has my 3 favorites actually, hall plate and spring. If it had something like Church or Cathedral and delay instead of tremolo (digital, tape, analog) it would have been perfect

Thanks for your input!

**loydb** · 09-23-2012, 08:59 AM

+1 Strymon

**Soco** · 09-23-2012, 09:56 AM

Eventide space is by far the best imo.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-23-2012, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Soco

Eventide space is by far the best imo.

For non-ambient stuff is it much better than the Strymon?

**docbop** · 09-23-2012, 10:24 AM

I am looking for a reverb pedel and asked my store that has huge selection and very knowledgable. They recommended the Strymon Flint and it was excellent sounding pedal, but too pricy iMO. Going to have to go back and check some of the lower priced pedals they mentioned.

**Soco** · 09-23-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

For non-ambient stuff is it much better than the Strymon?

I haven't tried the strymon only heard soundclips and they sound very nice.I have a TC NOVA reverb which is good, but the Eventide is in another league. The sound quality is as good as a Lexicon MPX 1 that I used to have.
I use the Eventide mainly for basic reverb and it sounds great, very warm and organic. The fact that it does the ambient stuff really well is a huge plus. Also you can store and make your own presets. Some of the sounds like the spring reverb has a tremolo, the modecho sound has the modulation, echo etc, the shimmer has the high octave thing, the tremoverb has the tremolo integrated in the reverb. So many options, might be overkill for some, but it is a really great unit, not only my favorite reverb but my favorite pedal of all time. I have a pedal board that has three eventides-the space, modfactor and timefactor and in combination these sound killer.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-23-2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Soco

I haven't tried the strymon only heard soundclips and they sound very nice.I have a TC NOVA reverb which is good, but the Eventide is in another league. The sound quality is as good as a Lexicon MPX 1 that I used to have.
I use the Eventide mainly for basic reverb and it sounds great, very warm and organic. The fact that it does the ambient stuff really well is a huge plus. Also you can store and make your own presets. Some of the sounds like the spring reverb has a tremolo, the modecho sound has the modulation, echo etc, the shimmer has the high octave thing, the tremoverb has the tremolo integrated in the reverb. So many options, might be overkill for some, but it is a really great unit, not only my favorite reverb but my favorite pedal of all time. I have a pedal board that has three eventides-the space, modfactor and timefactor and in combination these sound killer.

Thanks for all the details - it seems like a great pedal but I simply cannot justify the price

**feet** · 09-23-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Yes, I also noticed the absence of hall in the BS - the Flint has my 3 favorites actually, hall plate and spring. If it had something like Church or Cathedral and delay instead of tremolo (digital, tape, analog) it would have been perfect

Thanks for your input!

my dilemma as well. why is this hard? spring. plate. hall. something huge. that's it. but nobody does it. who cares about room reverb? that let me to start with the supernatural, but it isn't exactly that, either.

i think i'm going to try and bring in a few more pedals so i can do a proper reverb fight. i'd like to try a flint because it could potentially free up two spaces on my board. maybe a dr scientist as well. can't swing a wet or a space pricewise. i like the idea of the blue sky, but too many knobs for me. that's the space's big failing for me. i want to play, and not mess with knobs and patches and presents and what not.

initial thoughts on the supernatural: its more for people who play pedals and not guitars. i don't mean that in a bad way, but its for who it is and that's it. its' biggest flaw is the hardwire form factor doesn't allow for more knobs. it desperately needs a mod knob. you can't dial in how much of the crazyness you want. you can tweak the verb part, but the shimmer/shine/phaser/detuning just sits there.

if you just want the spring and plate (as i figure most guys here would) it may be overkill. but those two settings do sound damn good. at for the price, you'll be hard pressed to find better spring/plate sounds. also, its made in the usa, so yay for us.

all in all, its growing on me. it is definitely something you have to sit with for a while. its quirks more or less dictate how it will be played, and invite you to try different things- crazy amp/tone knob settings, hitting the bigsby against the pickups, playing with a bow or drumstick... if you're a left brain kind of player, you'll like this.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-23-2012, 05:48 PM

I would love TC to go that route on their next toneprint series. Give all the processing power to spring, hall, plate (reverb) and tape, analog, digital (delay). Save two banks for toneprints, keep them small, 9v and around 150€. Or even better put both delay and reverb on a small box to save some pedalboard space!

The saved processing power from unnecessary reverbs would let them make some awesome reverbs / delays I guess...

The supernatural plate and spring sound really really good on youtube. If they had put a regular Hall mode I would be gasing for one...

**garryrenfro** · 09-23-2012, 10:25 PM

I will cast another vote for the Strymon Flint. Having cut my teeth on amps during the early-mid sixties, I relish the combination of reverb and tremolo. The Strymon competently and tastefully delivers a multitude of tremolo/reverb flavors. It has exceeded my expectations. I am now saving for their Lex rotating speaker immulation pedal.

**feet** · 09-26-2012, 11:54 AM

quick update on the supernatural- its good. it is very, very good. the plate and spring are fantastic. the spring is so lush i actually thought i was using one of the modulated verbs, but i wasn't. almost sounds like you have some chorus in there as well. i'm learning to love some of the other settings as well, and how to use them/adjust to them a little better. plays along very well with delays and trems.

have a dr scientist coming in, too. excited.

really wish i could hear a flint, too.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-26-2012, 12:09 PM

Good to know feet. I wish I could try both a supernatural and a flint - but I just found a great hof toneprint so now I have two reverbs I really like on that pedal

Is the hall nice even with the modulation?

**feet** · 09-26-2012, 12:39 PM

i almost picked up a tc electronics trinity instead, but went with this. they kinda seemed geared toward the same thing. your thoughts on the hof?

plate and spring are the only "plain" reverbs. there is no hall. well, the only specified hall is the pherb (hall + phaser), which would be amazing if it didn't have any phaser.

to "dial out" the modulation you have to turn the mix down to the point that it is more or less pointless. funny that i got this pedal, being i don't like chorus or phaser and i get them for free now.

**jorgemg1984** · 09-26-2012, 12:48 PM

That's what I meant feet, the pherb mode. So the modulation is too strong? Too bad, I love hall reverbs, and I wish they had one included in the pedal.

The HOF is worth it because of the Church and the Toneprints. These two are so good it's worth the pedal alone

(to my taste of course)

Oh and I also don't like modulation pedals and I do like effects in general!

**jekyll & hyde** · 09-26-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by garryrenfro

I will cast another vote for the Strymon Flint. Having cut my teeth on amps during the early-mid sixties, I relish the combination of reverb and tremolo. The Strymon competently and tastefully delivers a multitude of tremolo/reverb favors. It has exceeded my expectations. I am now saving for their Lex rotating speaker immulation pedal.

I competely agree! Great pedal and very versatile.

**jorgemg1984** · 10-04-2012, 05:26 PM

So tried a Flint today. Went to a store to try other stuff and while I was there I thought "why not?". I did not try it with my rig / guitar but... the reverbs sound really good (don't care about tremolos). But I don't think it's that much better than the Church and Beautiful Reverb toneprint of the HOF honestly... not worth almost 3x times the price, the need for 250ma or the extra space. If neither of these three is a concern then go for it, it does sound excellent (tried plate and hall only)

**P4guitar** · 10-05-2012, 06:23 PM

Since I started this thread I thought I'd update everyone. I received a HOF yesterday.

It's too early to make a statement yet as my ears are still getting used to it...and all its settings and possibilities.

First impression was it's way too ambient and the various modes required huge knob adjustments when switching between them to get my idea of a decent sound. However I'm beginning to dial in some settings that are promising.

I haven't explored the Toneprints feature yet but will do so later.

I plan to learn how best to use this pedal and then, and only then, A/B it against my current standard for reverb, the Neunaber Wet.

All the above aside, I've had enough reverb pedals in my time to confidently assert that anyone should be able to make this pedal work just fine for most applications.

More to come.

**feet** · 10-08-2012, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

So tried a Flint today...I don't think it's that much better than the Church and Beautiful Reverb toneprint of the HOF honestly... not worth almost 3x times the price, the need for 250ma or the extra space.

that's heartening. i still want to do my due dilligence and try one out, but i'm pretty happy with what i got going right now. is the flint stereo? that could be a tie breaker for me. wouldn't mind a go with the wet, but that isn't a huge concern for me.

Originally Posted by 4thstuning

I received a HOF yesterday...
First impression was it's way too ambient and the various modes required huge knob adjustments when switching between them to get my idea of a decent sound...
I plan to learn how best to use this pedal and then, and only then, A/B it against my current standard for reverb, the Neunaber Wet.

i kinda feel the same about the supernatural, though it does have some lovely straight up reverb sounds. sometimes i just love that 3d spaciness, and pairs well with tremolo. and it sounds insane in stereo. can't wait for your further reports.

as for me, the dr scientist reverberator is getting it done. i think you guys would especially like it over other choices out there. it only has one knob and a short/long decay switch. the other knobs is for a (fantastic, non sound altering) clean boost and to cycle through the various halls, rooms, plates and the leslie setting. it sounds dumb but it somehow works. the boost is handy if the pedal is last in your chain and you want to put a little volume back or just want more awesomeness. and its tiny, and they come in neat finishes.

cons, it adds a little hum, it doesn't have stereo outs and its pretty expensive, but can be had on the used market. the reverbs are kinda samey, and i would have liked a second parameter knob (say, tone) instead of different presets for warm and bright. it doesn't get as spacey/ambient as the supernatural or other reverbs, but that isn't a huge issue for me. the leslie is ok, i guess, but not my thing. last but not least, no spring! huge

from me on this.

i think you fellas would like it. amazing sounds, butt simple to use. check them out.

**mad dog** · 10-09-2012, 09:35 AM

I've had a few reverb pedals. The one that stays is the Hermida. It just sounds right, at home or on stage. One knob, no modes or presets. About as simple as these things get. For non-pedal reverb, I can recommend the Texotica outboard reverb unit. Excellent stuff!
MD

**P4guitar** · 10-09-2012, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by mad dog

I've had a few reverb pedals. The one that stays is the Hermida. It just sounds right, at home or on stage. One knob, no modes or presets. About as simple as these things get. For non-pedal reverb, I can recommend the Texotica outboard reverb unit. Excellent stuff!
MD

My understanding is that the Hermida uses the Neunaber chip - but maybe that's wrong. If it's true I would expect the Hermida to sound pretty good.

The simplicity of the Neunaber, only two knobs, is part of its appeal along with the quality of its sound - I hate fiddling and having to remember settings.

**jorgemg1984** · 10-09-2012, 05:57 PM

They use a Neunaber chip but not that one Neunaber uses on their own pedals... thats classified

**jorgemg1984** · 04-12-2013, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by feet

you're probably straight with your wet. you could go for a stereo wet, i suppose. i'd be more interested if they were cheaper, and were classified. spring, plate, hall... whatever. just tell me what it is. this is america. i deserve to know.

i've got a supernatural waiting for me at the post office. i'll report back on that later. there are a few things i've been wanting to try, but i'm starting there first. been using an ehx holy grail plus and that has been more than good enough for years now. i'd bet you non laser verb jazz fellows would like it, especially given its price and simplicity. the spring and hall are very nice.

Sort of reviving an old thread - how did the supernatural worked for you? Specially subtle plate and spring sounds. The Spring on the Supernatural is supposed to be perfect and the one on the HOF not very good but I've been able to get a sound close to what I recall as a fender spring reverb sound is. Maybe most people just test it at home but I doubt at a gig anyone would distinguish the HOF spring from a Twin Reverb spring...

I've been messing more with my HOF and I've found very usable settings on Spring, Plate and Beautiful Reverb toneprint besides Church. It's still the best pedal I've tried for subtle yet present reverbs, I like it more than Strymon or the RV-7 which tend to always sound too big and present no matter what (and the WET to by youtube hearing).

The Supernatural seems interesting but all the clips I am able to find are basically a waste of time because those sounds only work if you play at home by yourself. I wish more people did "normal" reverb sounds on their demos because that's what you have to use with a band.

**ruger9** · 04-12-2013, 11:16 AM

For SPRING, I think the Wampler Faux Spring Reverb is one of the best, and the one I would (am going to) buy. For something more modern yet still simple, the WET rules. I've owned the WET... it was the best reverb pedal I'd ever owned, but I wanted spring and it doesn't really do that.

Alot of people say the Malekko Spring is good too- it's very simple- just too bright for me.

If you want the "ultimate" as far as having spring, cathedral, room, etc etc etc... Strymon BS or TC HOF.