New Guitar Purchase - Samick Greg Bennet Lassalle Jz4

[jazzshrink]

Middle of 12th fret?
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Fret, not fingerboard.

[SOLR]

Fret, not fingerboard.

Scale Length Explained - StewMac.

Understanding Guitar Scale Length - Andertons Blog.

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[SOLR]

Fret, not fingerboard.

just wondering how GV measured it, not affirming the methodology here.

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[John A.]

Close enough to tell if it’s one of the two. 24.75 or 25.5. It’s not like there are 24.8 or 25.25 options.

Close enough to tell that one is longer than the other, yes. But there are other scale lengths besides these, and there's enough variability in how mfr's position bridges (or how non-professionals place floating bridges), that you can't be sure what you have by measuring the nut->bridge distance.

[SOLR]

Fret, not fingerboard.

Well Rich says it's a 25.5"

at 10'30" in the video and L5 size copy well, after 1934 .

That is for a JZ4 LaSalle, which I think is the model that GV is playing...

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[guitarvegas]

Loar is 24"
Sammick is 25"

From nut to middle of 12th.

[John A.]

Loar is 24"
Sammick is 25"

From nut to middle of 12th.

Unlikely, but at least one is consistently longer than the other.

[garybaldy]

Scale Length Explained - StewMac.

Understanding Guitar Scale Length - Andertons Blog.

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I can't believe people need a video to measure the scale length

[garybaldy]

Loar 23.25
Sammick 23.75

I've just measured the scale length of my Loar LH 700 and my Aria FA71 (which we discussed early and reach the conclusion that it was basically the same guitar as your Samick)
Loar: nut to 12th = 12 3/8". So scale length = 24 3/4".
Aria: nut to 12th = 12 3/4". So scale length = 25 1/2".
You either have 2 rogue guitars you your measurements are wrong.

[guitarvegas]

Man, you all put a lot of energy together to help me with this just so I could pick the right strings. Man, thank you guys....you are all awesome people. We can probably close the debate on scale length at this point. Yes, one is longer than the other. I think Garybaldy is right. Okay, will share with you how everything is once it is all set up.

Thanks, now go play your guitars! lol

[guitarvegas]

By the way ... guitar strings can always be changed.
However, the guitar scale cannot be changed.

I hope we all know that....lol

[guitarvegas]

BTW I change my order to a 13 - 53 set just to stay safely on the edge

[AllanAllen]

I like 13s on a 25.5 scale.

[customxke]

You can also measure from the nut to the bridge and not have to double anything.

If you take that measurement and divide it by 4, then double it, and then multiply that by 2, and you’ll have an approximation of your scale length.

[va3ux]

I can't believe people need a video to measure the scale length

Amen ! The whole thing surprises me too.

[guitarvegas]

I ran another test with the stock pickup, and changed some recording setting, messed with the pole pieces, and I got this. I think the tone is cleaning up some. Still changing out all of it, but I plan to do a side by side comparison. Once I have the guitar set-up, I will do another short video and add this to it. See what the difference really is. I am obsessed...lol

[garybaldy]

I ran another test with the stock pickup, and changed some recording setting, messed with the pole pieces, and I got this. I think the tone is cleaning up some. Still changing out all of it, but I plan to do a side by side comparison. Once I have the guitar set-up, I will do another short video and add this to it. See what the difference really is. I am obsessed...lol

Sounds good. I'd like to hear it with a bit less piano.
Looking forward to the after vid.

[guitarvegas]

Sounds good. I'd like to hear it with a bit less piano.
Looking forward to the after vid.

But I do need to hear how it sits in the mix. Thanks for checking it out, man.

[RobbieAG]

My JZ2 is definitely 25.5 scale even though the greg bennett site says 24.75 for it. It's a typo. As others have said, the longer the scale, the more string tension.

[va3ux]

My JZ2 is definitely 25.5 scale even though the greg bennett site says 24.75 for it. It's a typo. As others have said, the longer the scale, the more string tension.

Mistakes like this do happen. For years, the Epiphone website said that the Zephyr Regent Reissue (1998 - 2008) had a 25.5" scale and a maple neck. It actually has a 24.75" scale and a mahogany neck; I know because I have one and other owners have confirmed the same thing. I emailed Epiphone twice to inform them but the response was always about the same. Epi : "Thank you for the information, but the website says 25.5" and maple neck". Me : 'Yes I know what the website says but again, it's wrong. 24.75" and mahogany is correct.' Epi : ' It's not likely that our website is wrong, but we'll look into it '. Me : 'The website is wrong. I own this guitar, you built it, and it has a mahogany neck and 24.75" scale. Epi : 'Yes we understand that, but our website says 25.5" scale and maple neck'. At which point I concluded : to hell with it. They don't care so why should I. It's not that important and not worth anymore of my time.

[guitarvegas]

Got the Jazzy Joe today. The mounting holes do not line up, but I am sure the luthier can fix that easily.

[garybaldy]

In the case of cheap guitars, Set Up is sometimes more important than replacing a part of the guitar.
Fret works,saddle correction-nut,bridge corection,corection of fingerboard etc.
All this affects the comfort of playing and right tuning of the instrument.
If someone is disturbed by the sound of the original pick up-think about new one.
It is often the fact that they are niuance and the real sound is in your fingers.
Only practising for hours on the guitar discovers the pros and cons of the guitar.

Great post.

[guitarvegas]

In the case of cheap guitars, Set Up is sometimes more important than replacing a part of the guitar.
Fret works,saddle correction-nut,bridge corection,corection of fingerboard etc.
All this affects the comfort of playing and right tuning of the instrument.
If someone is disturbed by the sound of the original pick up-think about new one.
It is often the fact that they are niuance and the real sound is in your fingers.
Only practising for hours on the guitar discovers the pros and cons of the guitar.

Well yeah, it takes a dedicated human to make anything come out of any instrument. Of course!
But a good solid set up is a good way to give you something that makes you want to put that time and practice into it.

[guitarvegas]

Finally found a guy in my neighborhood who can do my pickup install, new wiring and caps, and complete setup for about $160.00

That's about as good as price I can find.

What capacitors do I want to get for this guitar?....it has the mini floating humbucker.

[guitarvegas]

The person who mounts Pots and Caps in the guitar with mini humbucker should be known.
Mini Humbucer has more Treblle than the standard Humbucer.
500K pots and .022uF orange drop caps-it is a standard.You can combine with others.

My guy mentioned orange drops on the phone today.