Impressionism and Jazz

**Peter C** · 03-28-2021, 07:02 PM

In response to the last post, it seems self-defeating to, on the one hand, crave interaction yet, on the other, to go out of one's way to make it as unpleasant and "complicated" as possible. Try a different approach? Just a suggestion.

**ThatRhythmMan** · 03-28-2021, 07:07 PM

And Ravel was influenced by jazz also. Here’s some discussion.

Finding Jazz in Maurice Ravel's Piano Concerto | WRTI

**Litterick** · 03-29-2021, 02:29 AM

Making a Martini with vodka is bad enough, but a blue-cheese olive is insufferable. In any case, what is a double Martini? Is it served in a vase?

**Marinero** · 03-29-2021, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Litterick

Making a Martini with vodka is bad enough, but a blue-cheese olive is insufferable. In any case, what is a double Martini? Is it served in a vase?

Hi, L,
Vodka Martinis are reserved for the hardcore. No gentle lulling into LaLa Land. And a BCO is mandatory in some parts of the country--especially the Midwest. A double "Mart" is also quite standard since a standard 2-3 ounces of the revered fluid hardly wets one's palette. Any top shelf establishment disregards standard "pours"--especially with their good customers.
Back to Music. Did you notice in the above abominable piece by Debussy at about 1:15 -1:20 ,and forward, a motif Bernstein definitely stole from D for his West Side Story? Thanks for your reply and your sense of humor!
Play live . . . Marinero

**christianm77** · 03-29-2021, 09:37 AM

Gin or GTFO

**Marinero** · 03-29-2021, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by christianm77

Gin or GTFO

Hi, C,
GTFO= Gin Tonic (F??) Olive. I give up.
Play live . . . and sober . . . Marinero

**neatomic** · 03-29-2021, 01:52 PM

kamasi washington does debussy

cheers

**Litterick** · 03-29-2021, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Marinero

Hi, L,
Vodka Martinis are reserved for the hardcore. No gentle lulling into LaLa Land. And a BCO is mandatory in some parts of the country--especially the Midwest. A double "Mart" is also quite standard since a standard 2-3 ounces of the revered fluid hardly wets one's palette. Any top shelf establishment disregards standard "pours"--especially with their good customers.
Back to Music. Did you notice in the above abominable piece by Debussy at about 1:15 -1:20 ,and forward, a motif Bernstein definitely stole from D for his West Side Story? Thanks for your reply and your sense of humor!
Play live . . . Marinero

Thank you, Marinero. I am familiar only with Martini served in a standard glass, and filling it to the brim. The revolving lounge at the Bonavista in Los Angeles was one good place to drink them.

I will listen again to West Side Story.

**neatomic** · 03-29-2021, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Marinero

Hi, C,
GTFO= Gin Tonic (F??) Olive. I give up.

never had a martini (vodka or gin) in my life..but i know some barroom slang

translation would be- gin martini or Get The eFF Out

charmed i'm sure...haha

cheers

**Donplaysguitar** · 03-29-2021, 06:19 PM

It's the latter, of course.

Don't like my drivin? Dial 1-800-GTFO.

**Marinero** · 03-29-2021, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by neatomic

never had a martini (vodka or gin) in my life..but i know some barroom slang

translation would be- gin martini or Get The eFF Out

charmed i'm sure...haha

cheers

See, N, what I miss not being conversant in Y2K dribble? Oh well . . . I'll have to leave that to another generation. In my generation . . . you had to be careful what you said to someone. What a difference the internet generation assumes in personal communication! However, it's a long sail to England. Play live . . .Marinero

**Ol' Fret** · 03-30-2021, 05:49 PM

True, many jazz musicians were influenced by impressionist styles in classical music, painting, literature, and so on.
OTOH, while Charlie Parker - and other jazz musicians - loved Debussy, his playing was purely expressive. Django loved the French impressionist painters, but his own paintings show the attributes of expressionism.

I'd connect impressionism with cool jazz, classical-related chamber jazz, etc., but since the beginning of jazz most of its genres are much more related to expressionist than impressionist movements. To me the nature of jazz is expressionism!

**ccroft** · 03-30-2021, 09:11 PM

I prefer abstract expressionism both in painting and music.

**neatomic** · 03-30-2021, 09:27 PM

^ jim hall with california abstract expressionist painter john altoon

cheers

ps- jim hall was probably thinkin' don't drip any paint on my van eps string damper! haha

**christianm77** · 03-31-2021, 03:12 AM

The painting looks like Jim?

**grahambop** · 03-31-2021, 04:24 AM

I was thinking Darth Vader actually.

**ruger9** · 03-31-2021, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by grahambop

I was thinking Darth Vader actually.

I see C3PO. So I guess "expressionism" is where inkblots came from LOL

**Doctor Jeff** · 03-31-2021, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by christianm77

The painting looks like Jim?

The dark soul of Jim Hall...uncomfortably truthful...

**Peter C** · 03-31-2021, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by grahambop

I was thinking Darth Vader actually.

Quite.

Also, surprised to see they were holding jazz festivals in the Pacific as early as 1227, so I'm missing something there.

**Marinero** · 03-31-2021, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ccroft

I prefer abstract expressionism both in painting and music.

Hi, C,
Can you explain the basic elements of Abstract Expressionist Music as well as providing an example of this in Jazz Music? Thanks in advance. Play live . . . Marinero