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Free improv has become a sort of liminal space between musics. The best ‘non idiomatic’ improvisers I have played with have almost all been composers - not jazz players so much.
Originally Posted by James W
Weirdly I have probably done more free improv than I have listened too. I am the Garth Marenghi of squeaky bonk. But it is a fantastic thing to do! It breaks you out of the changes and time feel paradigm and highlights other aspects of music.
You don’t have to be interested in jazz at all to be into this stuff, something Keith Tippett used to say.
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07-04-2026 09:57 AM
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It is indeed fantastic. Although my most recent performing experience in such a situation (my first public experience playing this music) was marred slightly by my not being able to hear myself much of the time - I was playing acoustic guitar and, despite having a microphone plugged into the PA, still struggled penetrate the wall of sound that all the other instrumentalists formed for much of the time (including 4 drumkits) but when the texture thinned I jumped at the opportunity to play something and actually hear myself.
I've listened to and attended concerts of this music loads of times. It's funny actually, my friend whose composition I and others recently performed told me she wanted to compose something for me and a couple of other guitarists and said that we were all quite different and that I was more of a straight-ahead jazz guitarist. That was strange because I don't think of myself as such but that is after all what I put out there on facebook and youtube etc. Those 'straight ahead' chops I regard as a prerequisite to playing any kind of jazz well.
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I've been on a 20s-40s thing lately, although I'm never averse to more modern sounds. Lately I'm working on both a Charlie Christian solo ('Honeysuckle Rose', written but ironing out my playing kinks) and Miles' solo on 'If I Were a Bell' from one of his Blackhawk sets (early in the process of writing). It's been a while since I shedded this seriously, and I've grown sick of my own playing so it's time to get consulted by the Masters

So I love artists from the 1920s through 2020s.
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I grew up in a house where there were a lot of family jam sessions in our basement as all my uncles, grandparents, etc were working musicians. So in childhood I heard a ton of GASB and I knew someday I wanted to play. And yet as I grew up although I greatly admired the playing it didn't feel like it was "my" music. Then in the mid 70s I started going to see guys like Larry Coryell, Gary Burton's bands, The Fringe etc. so for me that period is probably the music that resonates most to me. Which certainly doesn't mean I don't enjoy earlier jazz.
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Same with me. I refer to this as the jazz golden age. Inception of true jazz in the 20s with Duke as opposed to proto jazz dixieland and ragtime, up until the end of jazz as popular music in 1970.
Though I may appreciate the earlier styles more than you. I likes me some Jelly Roll Morton. Where it's ragtime-ish but pianistic. I also like following musicians throughout the progression of time, and I like plenty of stuff after 1969, including current stuff. I think it's cool how current jazz adapted to the times and still excels.
This first cd was recorded in 1938, but he's likely playing in the same style that he did at the turn of the century.
But the real shiz from the golden age will always be my favorite.
Last edited by Strat-itis; 07-07-2026 at 07:47 PM.
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Generally, I like most periods of jazz for different reason. I don't care for the real old stuff in the 1920's maybe because recordings are not so good. As for guitar I start with around late 1940's with Chuck Wayne but middle 50s is when it really picks up. I am hard bop fan for sure, but I still enjoy even Chet. The one period of fusion guitar I simply do not care for at all. I listened and it never interested me and the players never got to me at all. The exception would be John Mcglaughlin and Larry Coryell.
There are some great players I never really listen to they never caught me. I never heard Larry Carlton play anything that interested be and frankly Lee Ritenour. Both of the top flight exceptional players but never on my to listen to list. To me it is hard to beat Wes, Kenny, Joe, and Pat Martino. Miles was great in the early 60's but really I could listen to Paul Desmond all day. In fact I have been listening to him so much I think something might be rubbing off. I think more in terms of embellishing the melody and making a statement than running the changes wide open.
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There are things I like from every era but generally early 20's to early 50's is what I enjoy the most. Within that range Gypsy jazz occupies much of my listening.
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My first reaction was "from whenever Paul Desmond started recording to when he stopped".
More seriously, I like some things from every era. Easier to pick who or what than when.
When I've heard a good band playing ragtime, I like it.
I can still listen to Lester Young and Charlie Christian.
I like early bop when I hear it.
I'm probably less into hard bop, but, in fact, it's one of the things I go out to listen to a couple of times a month.
Fusion music is not a favorite to listen to, but I enjoy playing it.
I like smooth jazz more than I'm supposed to, but I don't seek it out.
I like Brazilian jazz a lot, starting with the Bossa Nova era and continuing to the present. I often seek it out.
In big band, I tend to like the older charts. That may be because I struggle with reading Gordon Goodwin. Or it's just what's in the book.
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1959-1968 = Wes Montgomery period.
DG
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I like a lot of today's players/music, and mid-60's Miles quintet!



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