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I know how jazz musicians listen to jazz, but what about other people...?
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05-12-2026 01:47 PM
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They notice that you believe in what you're playing and will even "tolerate" outside stuff if you play it with due conviction, energy and sass.
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Agree with this.
Originally Posted by Peter C
Energy, enthusiasm, and hopefully with a drummer/rhythm section that drives the soloist with intensity. Dynamics are also very attention grabbing. When a band can go from very soft to very loud it gets attention.
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If your solo is melodic and musical, the gals will pay attention.
If your solo is a chops display, the men will pay attention.
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doubtful
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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If the solo is good, people will pay attention unless they are dead inside or you're at a venue where the "big game" is on the tv.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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Guess that makes me a girlie-man. Oh well. Hey--what if it's melodic and musical and real fast? That's gotta count for something.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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If your solo is good they will put money in the tip hat.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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Is solo good or bad...? This is highly debatable and may be a matter of taste.
Originally Posted by pauln
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I tried both, either case the gals paid attention to the bass player.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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One doesn't become a jazz guitarist for the gals. Or the money. It is, however, the perfect vocation for people that hate crowds.
Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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I think people respond to groove, even if they're paying attention to a conversation.
If people are paying attention to the music, it's everything that makes the music feel good.
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I don't know why I became a jazz guitarist, or if I am even a jazz guitarist, maybe some would take an offense to that claim.
Originally Posted by Stringswinger
I just want to be a functional guitarist member of society. I love gals, money, crowds, and free drinks. The music got me there.
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I played at a big jazz festival and I was very delighted with the reaction of the audience.
The audience of a few thousand was excellent and all my musicians from the band had a good motivation to play.
I felt like I was playing in front of a lot of brilliant jazz music experts.
Something incredible.
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It's a calling, and only those who are called see it through to the end for better or worse. Like being a priest or monk, it's not for most people.
Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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if your solo "sings" I will enjoy listening to you.
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Some tunes are just naturally better than others even when played badly.
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The enthusiasm in your face and the jokes you make in between the numbers. They love a bass player who slaps. The rest is over the top of their heads - unless they are players of course.
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Branford's being a bit silly. Using the chord structures of songs and increasing the speed of tunes was and is a big part of bebop. I suppose he disapproves of Bird's 'Quasimodo' which is a sped-up contrafact of 'Embraceable You' but I love it. Many of us are in the business of creating new melodies on old chord structures, whether they're improvised or pre-composed...
Originally Posted by brent.h
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I'm not sure I know the answer to the OP's question, but I think it might be this,
Originally Posted by itsmyname
I will say that I once had a weekly gig with a trio. Like perhaps many of us, the less inspired I was on a given night the more notes I tended to play - I guess to make up for my lack of interesting ideas that night. After one such night, a regular came up to me and said, "You were great tonight!" I was astonished to realize that his criteria for 'great' seemed to be note density. I just said, "Thank you."
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I used to play in a jazz café. I felt that I played poorly and something didn't go right.
A listener came up to me and said, you played a great solo.
I didn't try to prove him wrong.I was speechless.
Maybe I was wearing a beautiful evening suit.
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Most non musicians listen to jazz after three or four stiff drinks.
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In a word, melody. If the listener can no longer recognize the tune and can hear where you are going to get back to it, you've lost.
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My wife is not a musician, but she has a pretty decent ear--she can spot Monk or Louis or Ry Cooder or Frank or Tony or Ella within a couple bars (she is word-oriented and tends toward singers). What she doesn't much care for is the kind of instrumental soloing she calls "noodling," and I find myself sympathizing, though my threshold of impatience is much higher than hers. Nevertheless, there's a vast middle stretch of jazz performance that I find either uninteresting or impatience-provoking--just uptempo blowing that doesn't tell me anything interesting about the tune. A similar kind of over-busy, over-extended, directionless, and often bombastic playing is one of the reasons I lost interest in a lot of rock back in the 70s.
There is a phenomenon, though, that I long ago noticed in the folk world: crowd-pleasing stunt playing. There are folk-world guitar techniques that are not really technically very challenging but that often get applause when a player applies them. I can enjoy them as part of the performance mix, but I'm pretty sure that the non-players around me are responding to something that is exciting and sounds hard to pull off. But there's much less overt reaction to a beautifully executed legato passage, especially a slow one. And there are players whose entire schtick is built on showy, technically-advanced playing such as the tapping/percussive style that makes technique the point of the performance. An entire set of that material is pretty tiring, even if you're a guitar nerd. (Michael Hedges made it work, but his technique served the compositions, not the other way 'round.)Last edited by RLetson; 05-14-2026 at 12:12 AM.



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