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Makes sense...Like that scene in Back to The Future where Marty Mcfly goes all shreddy on Johnny B. Goode LOL.
Originally Posted by ragman1
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06-25-2018 12:51 PM
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You can bring a jazz sensibility/aesthetic to rock/metal etc. It comes off sounding "Fusiony" of course, plenty of examples of it from the 70's on.
Now on the other hand if you try to bring a metal approach into a Jazz idiom, you'll just look and sound like a dickhead.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Yep OP you're totally screwed... there's no turning back now.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha
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Welcome to the dark side.....!
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I know it has affected me...I can't really enjoy listening to another type of music except for jazz nowadays, and even then it's limited to early jazz till around the 1960s.
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Now on the other hand if you try to bring a metal approach into a Jazz idiom,
you'll just look and sound like a dickhead.
Perhaps this is really jazz played in a rock rhythm environment. Whatever it is, I like it.
From an early David Binney recording "The Luxury Of Guessing".
Ben Monder rock solo at 0:58 approximately.
IMO, with the right players, anything can work.
For purists, none of it works, cause they know so well how it should be done.
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Monder's Hydra is pretty Metal in places.
When it's not 12-tone Beach Boys, or suddenly haunting American art song.
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Wow that's pretty atonal sounding...But it works for me, and it's a good example of something only being able to work because of the context I think (and of course with the right players like you said); the head is establishing an outside sound right off the bat so there's a lot of breathing room for the solo...I like how he goes from being totally outside at the beginning of the solo to being more and more inside and recognizably in pentatonic minor near the end; very bluesy rock-n-roll
Originally Posted by bako
...I might have to sit down and attempt to transcribe/analyze what's happening on this one, if it CAN be analyzed lol.
Happy 4th guys!



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