Some interesting chord substitutions in a minor key?

**christianm77** · 08-13-2018, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by M-ster

It's a cheap thrill, but I like hearing/using V7 with (natural) 13 and b9 -- G7(13)(b9) in C minor. (I think I'm answering the original question without pontificating ... !)

If it's good enough for Pete Bernstein it's good enough for me.

Jordan K not like it though :-(

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 11:12 AM

interesting, i guess that’s what im doing when i play E7 for G7.

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by joe2758

interesting, i guess that’s what im doing when i play E7 for G7.

Yes - except I wouldn't play E7 - Cm :-)

**christianm77** · 08-13-2018, 02:51 PM

You should. It’s wizard japes.

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 02:54 PM

It's crap. I'd arpeggiate an E7 over G7 going to C major... that's quite japey.

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

It’s wizard japes.

explain

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 03:35 PM

what’s the problem Rag? the E? You said the maj13 worked

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 03:48 PM

E7 with root in bass to cm6 with 3rd in bass or E7 woth 7th in bass to cm6 root position

**christianm77** · 08-13-2018, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by ragman1

It's crap. I'd arpeggiate an E7 over G7 going to C major... that's quite japey.

It's not VERY japey. It's a bit milk and two sugars.

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 05:56 PM

godammit miller explain your cryptic euro slang

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 05:58 PM

this whole situation is pants

**mr. beaumont** · 08-13-2018, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by joe2758

this whole situation is pants

Whoa, you got pants?

**christianm77** · 08-13-2018, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by joe2758

godammit miller explain your cryptic euro slang

I mean to say; it's great larks.

**christianm77** · 08-13-2018, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Whoa, you got pants?

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**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 06:18 PM

what is happening!?!?

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 06:20 PM

then we got beaumont over here who says SHITE for some reason

**matt.guitarteacher** · 08-13-2018, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Babaluma

I have been learning about IV minor chords and how to use them in a major key. For example borrowing Abmajor to use as a subdominant in C major. Are there any interesting substitutions you could use to add interest or reharmonize when playing in minor key with a for example a -M7 tonic?

Thanks!

So what is your current approach? What are you currently playing for chord voicings on minor 25?

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

It's not VERY japey. It's a bit milk and two sugars.

Quite so, perhaps a trifle bland.

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by joe2758

what’s the problem Rag? the E? You said the maj13 worked

But a G13b9 does not an E7 make.

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by ragman1

But a G13b9 does not an E7 make.

it’s missing 2 notes, but it’s not like it adds anything outlandish (or at all for that matter)

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 08:58 PM

It's not the notes, it's the impression.

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 09:02 PM

**ragman1** · 08-13-2018, 09:32 PM

By the way, wizard = brilliant, jape = joke, prank. So a wizard jape is a brilliant prank. He wasn't being entirely serious, of course :-)

(It's early 19-something Brit upper-class speak. Or it might be Harry Potter, borrowed from that era)

**joe2758** · 08-13-2018, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ragman1

By the way, wizard = brilliant, jape = joke, prank. So a wizard jape is a brilliant prank. He wasn't being entirely serious, of course :-)

(It's early 19-something Brit upper-class speak. Or it might be Harry Potter, borrowed from that era)

dammit! haha i thought he was on my side