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That's very clever.
Originally Posted by PMB
I decided on lower case when upper was denied.
I like the methodical way you charted Autumn Leaves out.
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05-06-2016 09:07 AM
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Thanks. I could say the same for The Barry Harris Harmonic Method for Guitar. I was already aware of the basics of BH's thinking but your book brought it all into focus, especially the concept of "borrowing" from related diminished chords.
Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
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Festina lente!
Originally Posted by PMB
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I am really into Alan's book these days, I keep applying it to every tune I can think of. In fact I am hardly playing any single-note solos at the moment, I'm having too much fun with chords!
Originally Posted by PMB
I've saved your Autumn Leaves chart too, I'll check it out when I've got time. Looks very useful, to be honest I have not been that methodical about chord permutations in the past, so it's good to have.
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PMB & Grahambop:
It means a lot to hear you're benefiting from the book. Barry's idea's are straight forward but vast in implication, especially the Borrowing aspect.
I feel very lucky to have been introduced to Barry's teaching via Howard Rees.
Alan
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Well, I don't believe in shortcuts, Graham but it helps as a teacher to express concepts in the most concise manner possible. These examples came about years ago as a way to force myself out of reverting to standard root-based grips.
Originally Posted by grahambop
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So much has been written about alterations of sixth and diminished chords in discussions about Barry that it tends to sweep away everything else. I have both the Howard Rees workshop DVDs as well (the second of which features a familiar figure on guitar) and have been working quite a bit recently with chromatic major and melodic minor scales.
Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
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Originally Posted by PMB
That was my young man swimming everyday figure. I now resemble an egg on legs.
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PMB
That's a great exercise! Do you know of any other tunes or publications? I want to work on memorizing tunes and work on drop 2/3 chords at the same time.
Any direction you might have to share would be great!
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Hi Rob,
I put that exercise together years ago to teach myself all the inversions in drop 2/3. The opening of Autumn Leaves is an ideal tune as it contains the five main seventh chord types and moves in a cycle of 4ths. You could initially work with tunes that contain a similar movement, e.g. Fly Me to the Moon or All The Things You Are. It doesn't have to be 4ths - Jonathan Kreisberg once showed me a version of that approach over Giant Steps.
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Niiiiiiice!!
Originally Posted by PMB
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Mostly I just hear ... voices...
Originally Posted by Vladan
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Now, sing them, harmonize, sing that, then in reverse, then arpeggios, make counterpoint, 11 times, no mistakes. It must be done in the car, on your commute drive, on the way to work. If you make a mistake, make a U turn back home, without singing, then another U turn, then you may sing again.
Originally Posted by christianm77
Only sing on your way to work. Never sing on the way home.
If in the process you run out of gas, jump the first passing cop car and wait to be shot. You may scat along.
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I mean voices telling me to do things... terrible things....
Originally Posted by Vladan
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I'm telling you, to sing, in reverse, what they're telling you, is the only way to get the message.
Originally Posted by christianm77
That's on your way to work, of course.
On the way back, don't sing.
Just listen ...
... learn the lyrics ...
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Originally Posted by christianm77
There's a stoop in Hyde Park with your name on it.
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Great
I'll start working through AL, sounds like it's a lot meatier than I first anticipated. Probably doing it in a few keys would be a good exercise.
Thanks PMB!
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Thanks Rob. The amount of information when first learning jazz guitar can seem overwhelming and each person has their own handle on dealing with all that stuff. My initial approach to the maze was to break everything down to five basic types and the AL exercise came out of that process.
Keys: G/Em, C/Am, F/Dm, Bb/Gm and Eb/Cm
Scales: Major, Melodic Minor, Harmonic Minor, Whole Tone, Diminished
Positions: C-A-G-E-D
Chords: Major 7th, Dominant 7th, Minor 7th, Half Diminished 7th and Diminished 7th
Voicings: Drop 2 & 3 (6th String Root), Drop 2 & 3 (5th String Root), Drop 2 (4th String Root)
Tunes: Blues, Rhythm Changes, Swing, Latin, Ballad



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