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Good stuff. I think I remember it from many years ago. For the most amusing thing, you managed to score 2 disslikes with UWM - Park clip. People are just too funny.
Originally Posted by Stevebol
My Band campLast edited by Vladan; 12-14-2020 at 08:59 PM.
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12-13-2020 07:03 PM
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Have a plan A and B for the new world. Mine is California and Texas.
Originally Posted by christianm77
I decided to become a ladies man. Something new.
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"Saying uses his kids..." is so unfair. Those posts (with Dylan) made back in 2016 and the video material even earlier, than Beato-s Youtube presence. Beato was not known back then. I was his subscriber.
Originally Posted by djg
Later when his popularity gone to the sky, he posted many of boring or half truth things (still better than the majority content with similar viuw counts), but it became mainly uninteresting for me, so simply unsubscribed, instead of judging him and stamping "uses his children".
(I unsubsribed, after the xxth "what makes this song great", when he picked the yyth totally boring and shallow recording.)
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on the other side, it is very unfortunate, that all we must care about our children personal rights, what if they can not agree later as adults, the Internet is full of their photos, videos? Our parents had no such a dilemma to solve, few decades ago only child actors parents must thougth about this.
Nowadays I explicitly ask my sons's permission before I send a photo from my granddaughter in email even to a friend.Last edited by Gabor; 12-14-2020 at 12:29 PM.
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He gave his son a shot at world fame .. which succeeded. If Dylan ever wants a career in music he has an easier time than so many others. And it seems like he has not problems with his kids losing interest in music as they grew older
Originally Posted by Gabor
I mean, music is if anything about parents dragging their kids in front of other people, why are we suddenly after Beato?
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I think it’s a bit of a ‘boomer’ move and I think kids are going to be increasingly taking their parents to task about this type of thing and rightly so.
Sharing pics and vids etc of kids online is a bit of a tricky one, especially if you are proud and want to show off what your kids can do.... but yeah internet mores are still evolving. (yeah I know Rick’s gen X but no one cares about gen X lol)Last edited by christianm77; 12-14-2020 at 06:42 AM.
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please read the context, Maybe it is my English, but in the context it was obvious I meant " 'saying he uses his children' is so unfair"
Originally Posted by Lobomov
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I agreed with you
Originally Posted by Gabor
Last edited by Lobomov; 12-14-2020 at 12:01 PM.
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Cool stuff, Stevebol! I wouldn't worry too much about it. Appealing to the masses is, at best, a hit-or-miss proposition. Best to pursue your own interests. Your rhythmic sensibility is considerable.
Originally Posted by Stevebol
I especially dig the RiTDH vid. Kudos!
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I was just goofing around. When there's something big in the news like RITDH Party and someone does a remix, there's a mad scramble to do one and you have to be fast. It will be forgotten soon. It's about editing in an NLE (non-linear editor). A video editor.
Originally Posted by citizenk74
It's not my generation. I'm slow.
I was poking fun at remix culture in the other video. It was a school project. I knew a lot of people would hate it. We made omni-directional mics. It was a cool class. I was a film major for a while.
I'm not going to do it but I have a movie all mapped out. I might do it if it could be knocked out in a year but they take 5 years to make movies. I'd want an art house movie.
It's about a band who decides to rob a bank. It ends abruptly like 'Miss Lonely Hearts' by Nathaniel West. They decide, let's do it, they drive off.
Roll credits...
Isn't everyone a movie producer in California?
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Saying Beato uses his kids to promote his YouTube channel is unfair, that had to come from someone that doesn't watch him. You could watch 100 consecutive episodes and not see one of his kids.
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Just responding here to say,
Originally Posted by Skip Ellis
If ANYBODY reading this wants to share recordings or video of themselves but isn't sure if they are 'good' enough yet:
It's extremely important to completely and totally ignore this guy and anybody saying similar things. Please, please, post, share, be open to criticism and negative feedback, and take it all with a grain of salt.
If you share stuff, a lot of good things can happen:
- You can get feedback that helps you as a player
- Your content might actually be enjoyed by some people (and never ALL the people) so you're adding value and interest to those people's lives
- You may wind up connecting with people that have similar musical sensibilities as yourself
- It IS possible it can eventually have a significant impact on your musical career. Obviously, your content has to be well received, but you wouldn't know if you didn't try, right? But 'career' stuff isn't important to everybody, and sharing music has value independent of 'career' stuff.
Here are the bad things that can happen:
- You might not get the positive feedback you had hoped for (that's fine, keep playing and trying to improve, and enjoy yourself)
- You will likely get negative feedback, some of it well intentioned and helpful, some of it meaningless stuff from folks who are insecure, petty, or mean...sometimes you get feedback that's helpful and useful even if it was delivered in a harsh way.
- Maybe some people who don't like your playing will be upset at hearing you play. (So what?)
Seems like a no brainer to me; if you're on the fence about sharing music, share it. If you don't feel like sharing it, then don't.
If someone doesn't like your playing, they can hit 'stop' and go listen to something else.
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To add an item to what jakeAcci said... Recording videos can be a slap in the face for me... In that, I don't sound as good as I thought I did (I don't look very good either, lol). It's a great tool for self-critique and improving your playing.
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That's my fav. Upsetting people who dont like your playing is pretty satisfying. Because, hey, they deserve it!
Originally Posted by JakeAcci
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Recording a video of your own playing is one of the best bits of self assessment you can do.
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Just wish those who record would smile once in a while, not look like they’re undergoing torture or dentistry. Get a mirror?
Here’s an interesting (to me) question. What if, in the midst of all the ‘great’, ‘wonderful’, ‘wish I could play like you’ comments on videos here, someone posted real feedback? Like ‘hey there, nice, but you really need to clean up your fingerings’ or ‘are you sure that chord melody sequence works? It sure isn’t voice led.’
Or would it more likely disintegrate into a back and forth war?
Oh, yea I know someone else pleaded this ... no more freakin’ crotch shots in shorts. Please!
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It's pretty simple: Sometimes people post a vid and say 'comments and critique welcome' and there ya go. If they don't, don't. It's HARD to take negative feedback if you're not braced for it and experienced with it.
Originally Posted by jazzkritter
I'm not very active on this particular forum anymore, but from time to time when I look at the showcase section there seem to be critical comments as well as positive ones.
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His achievements don't overshadow exploiting his child for his monetary benefit.
Originally Posted by blackcat
He makes some entertaining videos, but I have zero respect for him, never will.
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Justin Bieber’s net worth $285 Million. Justin’s video “Baby” has 246 million views on YouTube. Now if numbers equal greatness?
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Haha imagine making the popularity = good argument on a jazz forum lol
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this is simply not true. please go to his channel and watch the vid where he brags about the fact that the vids with dylan have over 40 million views. the latest vid is from 2019.
Originally Posted by Gabor
Last edited by djg; 12-15-2020 at 07:53 AM.
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Right .. I mean, if he was a drug addict playing whore houses .. maybe going in and out of jail ... yeah well then he would be a jazz legend .. but as is .. reprehensible
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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What were we talking about?
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Dear Mr Beaumont...................
Thing is Jeff, 'exploiting' his kids ( IF that is what it is ) represents just a fraction of his output.
David
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'Work in progress' guitar videos.
Originally Posted by Litterick
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Exactly. It doesn't really matter anymore, the vibe is grump, find a video blogger you want to trash and go to town. Right now Beato is getting beato-up, ouch.
Originally Posted by Litterick



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