JGBE Virtual Jam (Round 64) - Punjab

[KingKong]

Hi,


Sorry if this interrupts the flow of the thread, but virtual jam? Can you expand on how that works?
Surely you can't all play live together over an Internet connection?

[grahambop]

Hi,


Sorry if this interrupts the flow of the thread, but virtual jam? Can you expand on how that works?
Surely you can't all play live together over an Internet connection?

It’s not a jam in that sense. Everyone just posts their individual take on the tune, however they want to do it.

[ragman1]

I would love to listen to that album but it seems hard to find!

Phantom (The Music Of Joe Henderson) by Jesse Van Ruller on songswave.tel

[KingKong]

Thats pretty cool, so u do something like this:

1. Make or find a backing track of some sort.
2. Play over it?

Or alternatively play a solo chord melody style version?

[ragman1]

Thats pretty cool, so u do something like this:

1. Make or find a backing track of some sort.
2. Play over it?

Or alternatively play a solo chord melody style version?

Absolutely, you've got it

[kris]

I have it ....the tune seems to be easy for me...so easy bossa style:





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[grahambop]

Phantom (The Music Of Joe Henderson) by Jesse Van Ruller on songswave.tel

I've seen that site too, the problem is no-one else offers the album for streaming/download, which suggests it has not been made available. So I’m not sure how legit that site is. One euro 26 for the whole album on a site that seems to specialise in Greek and Russian music? I have my doubts whether Jesse van Ruller will see any of that.

[ragman1]

I've seen that site too, the problem is no-one else offers the album for streaming/download, which suggests it has not been made available. So I’m not sure how legit that site is. One euro 26 for the whole album on a site that seems to specialise in Greek and Russian music? I have my doubts whether Jesse van Ruller will see any of that.

I have no idea. To be honest, if I wanted to hear it, at that price I'd pay it. Jesse wouldn't get much out of it anyway so he'll no doubt survive. What I'd be more concerned with - if the site is dodgy - is giving my payment details. But generally I get a warning about this sort of thing if I get to the payment stage.

Just a thought... would a dodgy site bother with obscure jazz albums like this? Wouldn't they be flogging Adele or something?

There's also this. Discogs are reputable, I've ordered from them in the past and they're fine. They also do Russian stuff (or used to before the unmentionable).
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Jesse Van Ruller – Phantom (2015, CD) - Discogs

[grahambop]

Discogs is fine, I’ve got several obscure things from them. But I don’t think anyone is selling that JVR CD there at present (I’m not entirely sure, but I think they keep the listing so people can put in a request for it).

[grahambop]

Tricky tune, eventually got my fingers round it! I used the Aebersold track but I fired the pianist, I preferred the bass and drums sound.

[ragman1]

Well done, Graham, that's how to do it! It was the start-stop aspect of it that put me off but you walked nicely through it. Time you were mentioned in dispatches, I think.

I fired the pianist

[Triple_Jazz]

Tricky tune, eventually got my fingers round it! I used the Aebersold track but I fired the pianist, I preferred the bass and drums sound.

SOLID take!!

Very nice job

[grahambop]

Thanks guys. I found it quite difficult at first to play good connected lines over the initial chords (i.e. D to B to Ab), I had to shed that quite a lot. Useful practice though, because I can see that sort of movement also occurs in the last section of Inner Urge (a tune I have only dabbled with, not tackled properly yet).

[kris]

Thanks guys. I found it quite difficult at first to play good connected lines over the initial chords (i.e. D to B to Ab), I had to shed that quite a lot. Useful practice though, because I can see that sort of movement also occurs in the last section of Inner Urge (a tune I have only dabbled with, not tackled properly yet).

A very interesting composition ... but so far I do not know in what key it is written.

[grahambop]

A very interesting composition ... but so far I do not know in what key it is written.

Nobody knows...not even Joe...

[Triple_Jazz]

I may have chose this tune but that doesn’t mean I know how to play it! Went over this last night and it’s tricky to say the least. I thought there were more jam tracks on YouTube. I messed with this a year or two ago and remembered there being more than one. I went with iReal for my backing.

[kris]

This tune can be a problem because it has an interesting chord changes.
All chords are known only differently compared to the so-called jazz standards.
I've found that playing long phrases makes it easier to beat this great tune.

[mastodonovan]

Thanks guys. I found it quite difficult at first to play good connected lines over the initial chords (i.e. D to B to Ab), I had to shed that quite a lot. Useful practice though, because I can see that sort of movement also occurs in the last section of Inner Urge (a tune I have only dabbled with, not tackled properly yet).

a little inner urge bridge hack you might be able to get some mileage out of: over D play relative minor(B minor), and then over B play B major obviously. Then the sequence repeats a whole step below where you started ( C to A) and you play Amin-Amaj. Etc. you may already known this but it really helped me with that tune when someone showed me that.

[kris]

There is my second take of Punjab.
4 choruses solo over chord changes-I tried to play sparingly and build long phrases.





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[grahambop]

a little inner urge bridge hack you might be able to get some mileage out of: over D play relative minor(B minor), and then over B play B major obviously. Then the sequence repeats a whole step below where you started ( C to A) and you play Amin-Amaj. Etc. you may already known this but it really helped me with that tune when someone showed me that.

yes I think I was doing some stuff like that on Punjab, certainly found that thinking in minor on some of those chords helped join up the lines and voice-leading.

[Triple_Jazz]

1190823[/URL]]There is my second take of Punjab.
4 choruses solo over chord changes-I tried to play sparingly and build long phrases.



Box

I enjoyed this take much more, but truth be told I am not a fan of Bossa Nova so swing wins every time!

[kris]

I enjoyed this take much more, but truth be told I am not a fan of Bossa Nova so swing wins every time!

Thank you.
A long time ago, a famous jazz musician told me:
"...play and try to play in different styles - it is very important - be creative..."
Best
Kris

[mastodonovan]

Still struggling a bit with this one, hope you dont mind the grunting lol

[Christian Miller]

I tried playing this tune but realised my reading isn’t really up to it.

i think I’d have to learn it which kind of defeats the thread point, no?

[wzpgsr]

I tried playing this tune but realised my reading isn’t really up to it.

i think I’d have to learn it which kind of defeats the thread point, no?

Head not required. But...when I saw Reg comment on the tune's difficulty I showed myself the door.