Call for moratorium on 335s

**christianm77** · 08-23-2019, 09:00 AM

This is what the kids are playing now.

I think it’s rather dweeby, but he works with Ariana Grande, so what the hell do I know haha

I think dweeby is cool now. Time to get a fan fret macaferri.

**mr. beaumont** · 08-23-2019, 09:41 AM

I hate Les Paul's. They weigh like 9 pounds but look like a ukulele on me. Nothing that small should be that heavy.

**Greentone** · 08-23-2019, 09:45 AM

9? When I was playing Les Pauls they were 11 lb guitars.

And, yes, too small if you are 6' plus.

**Woody Sound** · 08-23-2019, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Thoughtfree

I've had both real and copy 335s but I always had trouble with the very long expanse of guitar top between the tailpiece and the bottom end of the guitar. Like, what purpose does that acre of wood serve anyway?

It helps make it feel like a "real" guitar.

**GNAPPI** · 08-23-2019, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Greentone

9? When I was playing Les Pauls they were 11 lb guitars.

And, yes, too small if you are 6' plus.

Nowdays the chambered LP's can be under 9 pounds.

**christianm77** · 08-23-2019, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by GNAPPI

Nowdays the chambered LP's can be under 9 pounds.

Chambered = less wood same price

**christianm77** · 08-23-2019, 11:09 AM

335 with fanned frets?

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**Campos** · 08-23-2019, 11:20 AM

I'm sorry if I don't get it right, but what the topic owner means is that a 335 is virtually a solid guitar, right? This for having a central block, ok? What about thinline guitars without a central block, such as Casino? I have never touched one, but it seems to me to be more twangy than the 335. Is a thinline Tele more twangy and trebly than a solid one?

**xavierbarcelo** · 08-23-2019, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

335 with fanned frets?

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This is actually pretty cool...

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**sgosnell** · 08-23-2019, 01:02 PM

I have a fully hollow thinline, an Eastman T145, 1.75" at the rims, and it plays and responds like a full-depth archtop, but less bass acoustically. It's very comfortable to play, and weighs under 5 pounds. I've had no problem with feedback. I think fully hollow thinlines are a very viable solution. I've never been a fan of semis, but if it takes more wood to float your boat, they're readily available.

**christianm77** · 08-23-2019, 02:33 PM

I would be in the market for a thinline.... well if I had any money which I don’t.

**Little Jay** · 08-23-2019, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

335 with fanned frets?

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OMG, no....! My small minded purist tradional convictions and my OCD make every cell in my body scream in agony at the sight of it.......

**Little Jay** · 08-23-2019, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by christianm77

This is what the kids are playing now.

I think it’s rather dweeby, but he works with Ariana Grande, so what the hell do I know haha

I think dweeby is cool now. Time to get a fan fret macaferri.

I had to google for that one:

But dude, ‘dweeby’ seems the definition of a jazz guitarist, no?

**Woody Sound** · 08-23-2019, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Robertito

Source link:

The Story Behind The : Larry Carlton's sessions with Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell

"A few words on Larry Carlton’s celebrated guitar tone are in order. We start with the amp. Remembering that session, he also recalled: 'I can’t remember why but I decided to take my little Tweed Deluxe with my 335 and that became my lead sound with Steely Dan.'”

You might find this interesting too:

Rig Rundown: Larry Carlton | Premier Guitar

**Danny W.** · 08-23-2019, 03:04 PM

In the 1962 Gibson catalog, as well as some later ones, the description of the ES-355TDSV starts off:

"This magnificent jazz guitar..."

Case closed!

Danny W.

**Doctor Jeff** · 08-23-2019, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Robertito

Source link:

The Story Behind The : Larry Carlton's sessions with Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell

"A few words on Larry Carlton’s celebrated guitar tone are in order. We start with the amp. Remembering that session, he also recalled: 'I can’t remember why but I decided to take my little Tweed Deluxe with my 335 and that became my lead sound with Steely Dan.'”

Oops. I misremembered that. I have seen video of him playing a Tele, as in this one, and somehow associated it with that particular solo.

As mentioned above, Chuck Berry and Grant Green weren't known for playing a 335, though I said a "335-type guitar."

I will reiterate Larry Carlton's influence though. When I went out and got another "jazz" guitar in the 90's, I got one because he was one of my favorite players at that time.

Currently I have 2 thinlines--an ES-135 (balsawood center block) and a Peerless Sunset (fully hollow), both of which are more comfortable for me than the 335 yet still get that smooth jazz tone I've always pursued. Neither feedback to any extent.

**Jazzstdnt** · 08-23-2019, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by arielcee

Well to be exact, didn't Chuck Barry use a 345 or something? I know Grant used a 330. But yes doublecut thinlines...

Berry played a 355 I thought. Fancy guitar.

I had a 347 for awhile. Good guitar.

**starjasmine** · 08-23-2019, 05:11 PM

@Christian: Dave Stryker just called and said he's gonna kick your a--!!!
JK :-)

**John A.** · 08-23-2019, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt

Berry played a 355 I thought. Fancy guitar.

I had a 347 for awhile. Good guitar.

His early hits were done on an ES350T. Not sure when we stopped using those, but there are pictures of him playing an ES350T with humbuckers, so it had to be until at least '57, or maybe '58. There are pictures of him playing 335's (not sure of the dates, but they look like late 50s). Then at some point it's all 355's. Later on he often traveled without a guitar and without a regular band, and played a guitar provided by the venue or the back-up band hired by the venue (I saw him once with a 335).

John

**Jazzstdnt** · 08-23-2019, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by John A.

His early hits were done on an ES350T. Not sure when we stopped using those, but there are pictures of him playing an ES350T with humbuckers, so it had to be until at least '57, or maybe '58. There are pictures of him playing 335's (not sure of the dates, but they look like late 50s). Then at some point it's all 355's. Later on he often traveled without a guitar and without a regular band, and played a guitar provided by the venue or the back-up band hired by the venue (I saw him once with a 335).

John

Right, but he really zeroed on at 350 after a time.

I guess a 335 is what one settles for when they don't have a 355 or 347 around. (ouuuuuuuuuuch).

**GNAPPI** · 08-23-2019, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt

Right, but he really zeroed on at 350 after a time.

I guess a 335 is what one settles for when they don't have a 355 or 347 around. (ouuuuuuuuuuch).

Oooh... 347...

**Jazzstdnt** · 08-24-2019, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by GNAPPI

Oooh... 347...

Yeah, my 347 was blond. Truth be told, I happily played an ES-335 for years though.

**christianm77** · 08-24-2019, 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by starjasmine

@Christian: Dave Stryker just called and said he's gonna kick your a--!!!
JK :-)

That’s my second favourite guitarist name after Buzz Feiten. Something about the ‘y’.

Dave Stryker PI could easily be a syndicated Tv show from the early 80s.

**christianm77** · 08-24-2019, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Little Jay

I had to google for that one:

But dude, ‘dweeby’ seems the definition of a jazz guitarist, no?

Ha.

There were some cool ones.

But that was mostly in the 30s and 40s.

**dlew919** · 08-24-2019, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by christianm77

That’s my second favourite guitarist name after Buzz Feiten. Something about the ‘y’.

Dave Stryker PI could easily be a syndicated Tv show from the early 80s.

Dave Stryker is a tough ex cop who was framed and kicked off the job. Follow him as he solves murders as a pi in Los Angeles. Following Colombo Thursday nights 930.

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