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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatu
    Egyptian pharaohs were buried with their stuff. Just a thought.
    But grave robbers got most of it. Trust me on this. Archaeologists rarely find the Pharoah's stuff in the graves. Likely the grave robbers scoped out the tomb while it was being built and were hired by... the next Pharaoh...

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    Oh look, another one of those 'tastes great, less filling' L5 - GE threads!

    I'll say this. It takes more than owning ONE Golden Eagle to evaluate how good GE's are. And I'd not evaluate GE's based upon what Heritage was doing in the early days of the company. I've had my fill of GE's, and Super Eagles. One GE was heads and tails over the others, and the others were great acoustic guitars in their own right. I've never owned a LeGrand, and likely never will. For $6500, used, I'd just as soon own another L5CES, or a Super 400.

    Anyone of you Gibson fans would have loved the below GE...it was the cats meow...so much so it sold used for $4500, and the buyer drove 800 miles round trip to own it. All GE's, nor L5's are created equal. Jack nailed it, imo, when he stated you've got to weigh each guitar on an individual basis, not on a name plate.


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    Good words Stringwinger. I am behind your words. I think also that it is a fair comparison between Le Grand and Golden Eagle. These are very similar to each other. And there is plenty of other brands which are surely great and match for these two brands. Guild Artist Award is a great archtop, no doubt with that, I will consider that one as well when it comes to buying. I will find the right one, I am sure about that.

    Bornot2Bop, I also liked in your point of view, I have nothing to add. Your Golden Eagle is gorgeous. Surely a great guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Good words Stringwinger. I am behind your words. I think also that it is a fair comparison between Le Grand and Golden Eagle. These are very similar to each other. And there is plenty of other brands which are surely great and match for these two brands. Guild Artist Award is a great archtop, no doubt with that, I will consider that one as well when it comes to buying. I will find the right one, I am sure about that.

    Bornot2Bop, I also liked in your point of view, I have nothing to add. Your Golden Eagle is gorgeous. Surely a great guitar.
    Artist Award, GE, oh heck just have one of each!





    Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 04-02-2016 at 08:09 PM.

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    Hahaha! You really have nice instruments there 2Bornot2bop!

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    Gibson Legrand vs Heritage Golden Eagle-imga3451-jpg

    Here is mine again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Gibson Legrand vs Heritage Golden Eagle-imga3451-jpg

    Here is mine again.
    Hopefully somebody will buy it! I love this guitar, but the neck is not what I personally want. Like Patrick2 said, some of the Heritage Golden Eagles and other Heritage models had slim neck at some point, and the company was partly culpable about that thing. The neck of my guitar for sale, can feel more comfy to someone else, that is for sure. Nowadays the necks in Heritage guitars are somehow different, fatter, but they can vary of course, because all of them are hand carved.

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    Bornot2bop, your Golden Eagle's neck seems little bit fatter and wider than my neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzNote
    The LeGrand is smaller, not 17" but 16 1/2 and
    I never knew that, interesting. That half inch can make quite a difference in comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Bornot2bop, your Golden Eagle's neck seems little bit fatter and wider than my neck.
    Yes, that neck was noticeably beefier than several of the others I owned. They arrive as they're spec'd when ordered - Another advantage of "ordering" your own?

    GE's rule!



    Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 04-02-2016 at 08:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    I never knew that, interesting. That half inch can make quite a difference in comfort.

    Pretty sure the Le Grand is 17 inches

    Mine is the same width as my L5CES and L5WES


    As for brightness .... my Le Grand is quite bright with round wound strings

    I have Thomastik flats on it now and they tame the highs and bring out the lows .. to my ears at least

    I really love the acoustic sound with the Thomastiks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    I never knew that, interesting. That half inch can make quite a difference in comfort.
    yes much more comfort, and it feels light compared to a L5.

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    As I said eariler I have owned a LeGrand with the brightness you describe. The one I currently own is quite the opposite. I've heard recordings of both types also. They seem consistent one way or the other strange...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Pretty sure the Le Grand is 17 inches

    Mine is the same width as my L5CES and L5WES


    As for brightness .... my Le Grand is quite bright with round wound strings

    I have Thomastik flats on it now and they tame the highs and bring out the lows .. to my ears at least

    I really love the acoustic sound with the Thomastiks

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    Nice guitars 2bornot2bop! Thomastik Infields are great strings, the flat wounds. I always used them in my Golden Eagle to tame the, in my taste "too bright sound". I had once round wounds in my GE, and the sound was a little bit too bright when amplified. Acoustically round wounds work pretty well, I would say, especially with phosphor bronze strings. TI bebop series are also great!

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    It would be intresting to hear what would have been Patrick2's point of view to this topic. If this topic was made earlier, maybe Patrick2 would have replied as well.

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    Seeing Patrick2's past post I'll bet he's chiming in alright, we just can't see them! Very missed on this forum!

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    Now this gets really exciting! I asked Jay Wolfe, how much it would cost to make a custom carved archtop guitar with the body size of Johnny Smith, 25,5 scale length and the neck dimensions of ES-175 VOS reissue. This is getting really interesting now!

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    Three of my favourite guitars combined together, ES-175 VOS, Gibson L-5 and Gibson Johnny Smith!

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    Some of you were thinking the exact body dimensions of Le Grand/Johnny Smith: here they are,

    Body length: 20,75 inches
    Upper bout width: 12,50 inches
    Lower bout width: 17 1/8 inches
    Rim thickness: 3,00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Nice guitars 2bornot2bop! Thomastik Infields are great strings, the flat wounds. I always used them in my Golden Eagle to tame the, in my taste "too bright sound". I had once round wounds in my GE, and the sound was a little bit too bright when amplified. Acoustically round wounds work pretty well, I would say, especially with phosphor bronze strings. TI bebop series are also great!
    At some point I migrated to TI 14 Bebop rounds on acoustics, and found them to be the string choice for me. Not bright, and with more acoustic life than flats. I've TI GB's on the set HB SE, and TI 14 Bebop rounds on all acoustics. YMMV. Good luck with your GE sell...availability of GE's in Europe is slim, so one would think you'd sell it quickly...hopefully an eventual sell will allow you to acquire a guitar more to your liking.

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    Thank you bornot2bop. It can take a while to get this guitar for sale, but I believe that Europe could have more potential buyers than in USA. I think now I discovered how I get a guitar I really want for a more reasonable price! Gibson costs a lot on the average, we all know it. Making a custom order to Heritage really reduces the costs of buying an overpriced guitar. When you have the specs you have always wanted, the guitar can really be something. I may not get the exact neck shape of ES-175 VOS, but it probably will be as close as possible to it. I know Heritage will surely try it's best to build a guitar one will like to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Three of my favourite guitars combined together, ES-175 VOS, Gibson L-5 and Gibson Johnny Smith!
    And I am going to put Kent Armstrong Johnny Smith pickup in it! I think this is it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Now this gets really exciting! I asked Jay Wolfe, how much it would cost to make a custom carved archtop guitar with the body size of Johnny Smith, 25,5 scale length and the neck dimensions of ES-175 VOS reissue. This is getting really interesting now!

    Hope this works ...

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epistrophy
    Some of you were thinking the exact body dimensions of Le Grand/Johnny Smith: here they are,

    Body length: 20,75 inches
    Upper bout width: 12,50 inches
    Lower bout width: 17 1/8 inches
    Rim thickness: 3,00
    Where did you get these measures from?