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I've been GASsing for the Flint. It simulates three classic Fender reverbs and three classic tremolos, too. More old school than modern I guess, but what's old is new again!
Originally Posted by Pale Rider
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09-08-2016 10:26 AM
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I like the HOF and it's many derivatives but I'm now using a Hardwire RV-7 and I do prefer it. It's built like a rock and the sounds are really exceptional.
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I've been using a Source Audio Dimension Reverb and quite like it. It's got a whole lot of possibilities and parameters to tweak, which may be good or bad for you depending on what you want. What I like about it is that you adjust all the reverb parameters via knobs on the pedal, which makes it easy to tweak while you are playing and hear the results, versus something like the HOF which gives you deep tweaking capability but it's via the computer which makes it inconvenient (for me anyway) to do comparisons while playing.
Here's a couple of recordings I made with it. This first one is a standard tune so it's a bit more "normal" of a reverb.
In this next one I'm channeling my inner Pat Metheny! I'm trying to cop Pat Metheny's awesome reverb drenched tone on his old recordings. Frankly it's probably a bit much even by Metheny standards but I think it's effective in achieving the sound I was looking for.
https://soundcloud.com/vincemguitar/spring-aint-here
What I like about this pedal is that even though I have it set pretty wet, the verb never gets in the way of the base tone; I was never able to do that with my other reverbs (Line 6 Verbzilla or TC HOF).
Also, the pedal has two presets which is convenient. I use them to hold sounds similar to the two above - a traditional verb sound and a more over-the-top sound.
It does take a bit to get familiar with the different verb flavors it has but I feel the effort is rewarded.
Hope this helps!Last edited by VinceMGuitar; 09-09-2016 at 08:22 AM. Reason: Trying to get the second Soundcloud link to display like the first one but failed. Wonder why?
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Haven't heard anyone mention the Boss RV6. I have it and find it a very serviceable reverb pedal when I need one. Has provision for stereo, and in a weird way, if an amp hasn't got an auxiliary input, the Boss RV6 can be used to provide two inputs (guitar+auxiliary) which is nice.
Maybe Boss is just to common to be of interest?
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My favorite hasn't been mentioned, the Dr. Scientist Reverberator.
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Funny, I have no use for pedals of any kind but I also have no love of the non spring "reverb" in little SS amps.
I also have no use for "effects" AT All, but a pedal with EQ capability can REALLY extend the potential of a clean sound. So I use a much maligned Boss which has a plethora of untapped potential for tone envelope processing.
This is a cool thread full of info on reverb for a couple of my tube amps that have the tone I like but crappy reverb because I had never considered a stand alone reverb.
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Stand alone reverb caused me to completely change my thinking on amplifiers. For years I just automatically eliminated non-reverb amps from consideration and yet a lot of the reverb on the sub-set of jazz amps was really wretched. Once the market became awash with decent reverb pedals at almost every price point, it meant that I could evaluate amps without having to consider the presence of reverb or its quality. It opened up a lot of different quality options for me. Originally Posted by GNAPPI
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I bought a Boss FRV-1 for my AER (that has only a digital reverb that's useful for vocal but lacks a lot for guitar imho).
Now the FRV-1 is a bit of an overpriced one-trick-pony, but sounds very good to my ears. I bought it because it has one of the lowest mA consumptions so I can gig with a battery and keep the set up simple - no need for a power transformer. A lot of reverb pedals consume a battery very quickly (although I guess most newer digital ones are better in that aspect).
I share Jim's experience that I can now seriously consider non-reverb amps!Last edited by Little Jay; 09-11-2016 at 01:38 PM.
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I hate, hate, HATE Boss pedals. Never owned one I liked, except for the tuner (which I eventually replaced with a Peterson, anyway). Originally Posted by Little Jay
I have an original Holy Grail (the big one with the flimsy casing). It sounds great. The down side is that it doesn't take a battery, so you have to have a place to plug it in (and you have to keep track of the power cord).
I've found on non-reverb amps that my MXR Carbon Copy delay provides a decent ambience. It's not quite a reverb, but set up properly, it does pretty nicely in putting some space around the sound. (But I like it better when I can use it together with some reverb.)
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Hahaha, BOSSton Joe, ok we get it, no Boss pedals for you. Still, if you like a normal, plain (?) spring reverb, then the FRV-1 is the perfect pedal. I honestly can't hear the difference between the FRV-1 and the reverb of my Twin.....
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I'm another vote for the FRV-1. I tried the Holy Grail and Mad Professor before I settled on the FRV-1. The Holy Grail made a lot of hummy hissy noises that weren't reverb. The Mad Professor was ok and I was happy with it but I ended up trying the FRV-1 and liked it a bit better. And I knew I could get some money back out of the Mad Professor. On all three I had my settings pretty low. I don't use a ton of reverb. Nothing surfy or weird, just a little to keep from sounding too dry.
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I don't know how many people have done a comparison of a bunch of reverbs. If all you want is a touch, lots will do the job.
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I mostly agree with this provided that you are looking for a good sound rather than a specific sound. If the only thing that works for you is a really good spring reverb, then your options are more limited but if your open to exploring a pedal and finding one or two settings that seem natural and attractive, then the options available today are incredibly broad. It's a very good time to be a guitar player. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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I have the TC HOF. I think it's very good. I do wish I had a Neunaber Wet, though. That's my own favorite sounding verb, but I haven't heard many of the ones listed above.
Funny how subjective reverb is. I guess because it is so intrinsic to the way we each hear the world, the echoes in our own little heads...
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I've heard good things about the HOF. I'm a little wary of TC Electronics products since my bass amp just up and died on me. I hope their pedals are more reliable.
Never had any noise problems with the Holy Grail (Maybe the 'Flerb' setting was on when morrowben tried it? I don't use the Flerb much myself). Not crazy about the no battery thing, but it's not THAT big a deal.
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Not the Flerb setting. That setting was interesting but not very useful for me. I use a reverb pedal to make up for not having it on the amp so I always just used the Spring setting. Nothing crazy. I think mine just had a bad cap or resistor making noise. I think I still have it somewhere. Couldn't sell it in good conscience sounding like that. Mine was the full size one. I know they have a Nano version now. Never tried that one. Originally Posted by Boston Joe
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most of the correct answers have already been given. i gave up the search a few years ago for the most part, but of what i kept:
dr scientist reverberator- just the best. still my favorite. natural, butt simple, several useful sounds. free boost and leslie, but no spring. noisy on a daisy chain.
strymon flint- in my use, it seems to work better in front of the amp rather than in the loop. i also prefer it for more apparent and ambient sounds than subtle ones. trem is pretty great but i hardly ever use trem.
digitech/hardwire polara/rv7 (have one of each)- probably the best bang for the buck out there, without feeling like you're settling for a bang for the buck pedal. the liveliness knob is a little nebulous, and the polara is nearly impossible to read, but that's some good reverberating in there. does both set and forget/ampy sounds and laser stuff well. if you are at a loss, don't want to spend and incredible amount or don't want to fuss around much, you should probably start here.
ehx holy grail plus- solid, but a distant fourth here. not all that inspirational or whiz bang. flerb is useless.
of course, there is plenty of new stuff out that is as good or better than what i know (empress, boss and mxr to name a few) but i'm pretty much done with reverb shopping. besides, now i have plug ins and can add it after the fact, which is actually preferable for recording.
like many of you, i only play reverb free amps, so these are a really big deal to me, as reverb is my preferred effect. while having reverb built in an amp would be cool in a plug and play, luddite sort of way, it just adds to the cost, weight and circuitry of the amp. and also, most amps with reverb built in tend to be lower end junky ones, or fender based designs, neither of which i'm after. and since i have so many pedals already, i can get what i want, have a more streamlined amp and save some money while i'm at it.
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I´ve tried every of the mentioned but everytime getting back to my Boss RV5.
I only use the plate mode, find a setting and leave it there. It sounds like my old super reverb amp.
The RV 6 is fine but a little too dark for (my) live setting. I like the reverb to add some air to the sound.
The HardWire RV-7 comes in as my number 2 .Last edited by Uffe Steen; 09-12-2016 at 07:29 AM.
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I have two disagreements with this. One is that I disagree about amps with reverb being "lower end and junky". Second, amps without reverb often lack effects loops as well, and I don't like the way a reverb pedal sounds in front of an amp. I'd much rather have it in a loop, after the preamp. Especially if there's overdrive in the chain or you're pushing the preamp section for OD. The OD tends to exaggerate the reverb in an unpleasant way. Originally Posted by feet
Obviously, this is my preference and your experience may be different. I have both reverb and non-reverb amps, and I like them both for different reasons and different applications.
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would not recommend the Catalinbread Topanga unless you only play clean. It boosts the high end presence of the guitar (even through the dry side of the signal path) and doesn't sound very good when overdriven. If all you do is clean archtop play, you can - of course - dial down the high end in the amp...
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TC HOF has done everything I've needed. Sometimes with a DD-6 (Suhr Badger), and sometimes by itself (Ceriatone OTS). I haven't messed with the Toneprints but may at some point.
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It's a little expensive but my suggest is for Neunaber Wet reverb mono or also stereo depends on your setting
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I like the new Keeley Hooke I use it for guitar and bass, to me it sounds warm and musical. Not as sterile as some of the TC stuff. I got mine from Sweetwater music.
Last edited by gary mitchell; 09-13-2016 at 09:06 AM.
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one thing folks should do is look into the chip set that's being used in the reverb pedals. 90% of the pedals use a neunaber chip. Only the bigger companies can afford to do their own custom reverb algorithms and chipsets so if you get the pedals from most of the smaller companies, you're getting a very small subset of actual audio and algorithmic differences.
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My Rivera Clubster Royale 112 has a 6 spring reverb. Nice deep and warm very musical useful reverb. I bought the Keeley Hooke reverb because it did not sound as sterile to me, as some of the other reverbs such as the TC Hall of Fame. But thats my taste and I actually bought the Hooke to use on my bass at church. But I called Boss, TC Electronics, Keeley and a few more , and wanted effect pedals that could be used and had the range to be used on any instrument very well such as guitar and bass. Boss, TC, and Keeley were the only ones who told me if I wasn't happy to send them back for full refund using them on bass or guitar. And to me the Keeley reverb is very nice its not a super hall reverb but I call it sort of a seductive good jazz reverb. It doesn't have a million different types of reverb, its just got a good reverb if you want to play jazz. Myself I do not like multi effects never did care for them, to me they do a bunch of stuff but not one thing well. I am sorry what I am trying to say there are amps out there with good reverbs, I wish sometimes they would have and I am old. But I wish they would have left the dwell knob in them, I would pay the extra money.
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