Double top archtop?

[Rickco]

I was on Siccas Guitars and found a great description of a "double top" classical guitar which I had never heard of. After watching a bunch of videos and concepts I could see no reason why this idea couldnt be used for a lam archtop, 3 layers with the middle layer being XXX? I actually have access to presses and cnc for moulds but no guitar knowledge. Seems to me the middle component which is still evolving could be the ticket to a lam top arch top with extraordinary response... Archie??? Im starting on a short scale "hollow electric" bass with flat top and back, Im going to try a few top assembly's with this idea, or at least think about it...

[ccroft]

Maybe you've seen this:

[Rickco]

Thanks! no, I never even heard of it before.

[spencer096]

That Andersen sounds incredible.

[FourOnSix]

That Andersen sounds incredible.

Yep, and I've played it.

[Llewlyn]

wow that is so cool

Ll.

[Jimmy blue note]

It's long past the point in time when lutherie started to take laminated soundboards as more than a cost cutting alternative. There are materials and technologies out there (tuned graphite epoxy, resonant wood laminates, tuned CNC plates, alternative woods...), the materials are out there. As often is the case, it's public acceptance that makes the difference between a great idea that changes the norm and a great idea that fails and is forgotten.

[Cunamara]

With the Andersen video, which I have watched several times, the efficient use of material is something to consider in a time where old-growth tonewoods cannot be found easily. Look at the Taylor video about ebony. Alternative materials must be investigated and I was highly impressed by the outcome of Andersen's work with double top archtops as shown here.

But as jbn says, the buying public would have to get into it, and not just keep trying to buy 1959 Les Pauls, 1952 Teles and 1940 L-5s. But the guitar buying public is largely driven by backwards looking nostalgia and resistant to embracing new ideas. We want what our heroes and inspirations played.

[Rodney Gene]

But the guitar buying public is largely driven by backwards looking nostalgia and resistant to embracing new ideas. We want what our heroes and inspirations played.

Guitar players (particularly that group) love, seek and embrace innovation...just as long as it is something they already love, seek and embrace. Coloring too far outside the lines is where trouble begins for builders. Even for well established legacy companies. Changing the lines a bit is OK, colors are OK, minor shifts are OK, but we really do like to see something we know.

[Cunamara]

There was a stretch of time when Ibanez made pointy guitars that sold like crazy, I'd forgotten about that, but still not as many as Les Pauls, Strats and Teles.

[Cunamara]

Guitar players (particularly that group) love, seek and embrace innovation...just as long as it is something they already love, seek and embrace. Coloring too far outside the lines is where trouble begins for builders. Even for well established legacy companies. Changing the lines a bit is OK, colors are OK, minor shifts are OK, but we really do like to see something we know.

Since my favorite band is the Grateful Dead, I don't have any fear of guitars, amps and sound reinforcement that is far out of the lines established by Fender, Gibson, Marshall, etc. LOL! Check out Tiger's wiring schematic sometime.

[pauln]

Still I am holding off until I find a
double top double neck archtop.