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The attenuator is my favorite feature of the ToneMaster Twin. Does the pedal have this function?
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10-08-2023 02:52 PM
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It does, in a non obvious way. You have the regular amp volume (gain) and something called amp level (master), plus the master volume. So I guess you can get the volume you want at any gain setting.
Originally Posted by TedBPhx
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Pick->Strings->Guitar->Cord->Tube Amps Originally Posted by Litterick
I own all the parts of my signal chain now.
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"Barefoot" means guitar through cord Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
to amp; no pedals, multiFX, processor,
nor modeling. Maybe you were joking?
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I think it's true for every piece of gear I have.
Some days it sounds great and other days the exact same thing in the same situation sounds bad and I want to replace it.
How do I get only good days?
This is facetious, but it's also true. So much of this, for me anyway, is variation in perception.
A couple of years ago I had to remodel my kitchen. There were so many decisions to be made that I wished, privately, that there was only one kitchen to choose from and all I had to do was say yes or no.
How many IRs am I supposed to go through?
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yeah I know what you mean Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar;[URL="tel:1291706"
I even get option paralysis from
a cheap Zoom multi fx pedal ….
and have to turn it off !
I’ve got a simple all analogue Gas fx Drive-thru pedal coming soon ,
it’s got 3 or 4 knobs and switches
I hope i can handle it !
i think i just need one good
sound really ….
but i don’t wanna carry a tube
amp
I mean , how many sounds does
a Trumpet have
1 one
or
2 infinite ?
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I got to try one in a store for a few minutes with the new FR12 amp.
It was indeed easy to use and learn.
The break up of the fender amps was very impressive as well as the effects, but the time was to short to get thorough. (The store would have allowed me to try it for longer but i was with my better half and we just stumbled upon a guitar store so i didnt want to be at it for too long)
It did sound really good in the room and I did a few attempts with different cab sims and mic positioning and I did not feel I got anywhere that really impressed me in terms of feeling I am playing the "real thing" like you get from the other tonemasters, but more trial and error might have gotten me there? I'd still say it was very good, but not mind blowing.
I am really tempted to buy one.
I do tough find the big size to be a bit off putting.
I wonder if they'll eventually do somethig like Line6, Boss and others, where they offer products with the same modelling technology but in different form factor and amount of knobs.
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They have all sorts of mutes and use different mouthpieces to vary their sounds. Trumpet players often have multiple horns. Apart from cornets, flugel horns, C trumpets etc., each type can have different bore types, shapes etc. Originally Posted by pingu
But that variety is perhaps more parallel to everything you can vary about a guitar before you plug it into anything.
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This guy's videos were posted on this thread. I looked at other videos of his and now I'm interested in the Kantana mkII 100-watt head that doubles as a bedroom amp. Originally Posted by pingu
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By default you should assume I’m joking. Originally Posted by pauln
Yoda: “The snark strong with this one is.”
BTW, if you haven’t seen Tash Sultana, you’re missing out. She’s great, and a great guitarist.
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I got one-the best solution for recording, as I can go direct in. You can EASILY change the mic, and the mic position, and add a 2nd block of the same cab with a different mic/mic position, to get the multiple mic of the cab effect.
I created 2 initial presets for myself: (1) Fender Princeton ‘65 reverb (combo amp) (2) Fender Princeton ‘65 Head only and Fender Convulsion Reverb.
I dig it a lot. I need to get a decent pair of headphones, though, to check things out in fine detail. What are people’s recommendations for wired headphones? Thanks
PS: the FRFR cab is great, too. It has a treble-bass-middle-volume on it as well. Interestingly enough, the Fender Princeton has no middle setting on the amp, but the FRFR cab does, lol.
48 month no interest payment plan is how I bought my Nord Piano so this is how financed this.
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I think the use case for the frfr cab eq is to use it as a master eq that will affect all your presets and then you can use it to adapt to different room acoustics with out needing to fiddle with every single presets eq.PS: the FRFR cab is great, too. It has a treble-bass-middle-volume on it as well. Interestingly enough, the Fender Princeton has no middle setting on the amp, but the FRFR cab does, lol.
If i remember correctly the quad cortex added a similar master eq function (in the software) for that kind of purpose in a later SW update.
So have you already purchased and received the tonemaster Pro and fr cab?
(The eq/tonestack in the princeton model (and other amp models), is intended to behave like the tonestack in a princeton amp. The tonestack in a princeton amp is between two preamp gain stages which it interacts with, and the amp model should (among other things) model that interaction)
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Yes, I have it now. Originally Posted by orri
What does this mean: “ between two preamp gain stages”?
The Princeton is my favorite jazz amp, because it has the best balance of clarity, warmth and sparkle without the boominess and mud.
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What you didn't pay for the FenderCare remote diagnostics service???? Cheap insurance!! Originally Posted by supersoul
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It's circuit design related.The princeton's first preamp tube is a so called dual triode tube.The guitar signal first goes through the first triode, then the tonestack (eq), then the second triode in the same tube then the rest of the circuit.How you dial in the eq affects the signal strength and frequencies that the rest of the circuit sees so it affects the sound differently compared to EQ ing a signal that is output from a mic on a cabinet (whether it is modelled or not) Originally Posted by Navdeep_Singh
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Take note of this touchscreen and how easy it is to shape and alter your tone. This comes with over 6000 IRs. You can change: cab type, mic type, mic position, add low and/or high pass filter (Not exactly sure what that is, presumably you can cut off high and low frequencies), change Axis etc.
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I find it strange that someone could say the following:
“Pros: Clean and low gain tones are *mostly* great. Convolution spring reverb is perfect. Many of the effects sound really good. 5150 blue channel sounds as it should. Univibe and harmonic trem are glorious.The Princeton and Deluxe Reverb in particular are the best modeled tones I’ve ever heard from any platform.”
and return it.
What kind of pristine, superior tonal quality is one really noting in super loud, high gain music? One listens to it for the harsh, bludgeoning sledge hammer blows, not for the pristine note separation of a F7#9b11 chord.
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This triggers me... it's like my teaching gig for classroom guitar. No, pick it up, and put it on your lap with the sound hole pointing away from you. No not on the floor, Tash. Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
By default you should assume I’m joking.
Yoda: “The snark strong with this one is.”
BTW, if you haven’t seen Tash Sultana, you’re missing out. She’s great, and a great guitarist.
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The inexpensive studio-style headphones that are popular are the AKG K240 which I can recommend. I don't have experience with more expensive headphones. Originally Posted by Navdeep_Singh
Keep in mind that to get a stereo image, the sound on each side was to be different enough in some way to create the stereo effect, otherwise, it will just sound mono. You can toogle the stereo/mono button on your daw while soloing the guitar tracks to see if you are indeed getting a good stereo effect, headphones help when listening for stereo effects.
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The thing with the Fractal stuff is the very steep learning curve. In another thread I likened the curve for my AX-8 to a perpendicular line Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
Once you master it it can do 1000s of things well, but you have to spend the time, and be prepared to know things like how much sag is too much sag on your modeled tube amp's tubes. For someone who makes music for a living and has occasional days off between evening gigs, that's not the end of the world. But if you have a 9 to 5 / Monday through Friday non-music related job any Fractal is ridiculous overkill, IMHO. Something like this TMPro makes having a ton of cool options in a single box a lot easier to just dive in and have fun with. I think 'ease of use' will be the next big thing over tons more amps and such in the all in one/does it all realm. (Or at least I hope so.) Again, just IMHO.
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I agree with everything you say! I bet if you're willing to learn it, the Fractal is the best modeller. But fortunatelly there's plenty of simpler options these days - if you already have an amp you love and know what eq you like, just capture it and be done Originally Posted by jim777
The thing with the Fractal stuff is the very steep learning curve. In another thread I likened the curve for my AX-8 to a perpendicular line Once you master it it can do 1000s of things well, but you have to spend the time, and be prepared to know things like how much sag is too much sag on your modeled tube amp's tubes. For someone who makes music for a living and has occasional days off between evening gigs, that's not the end of the world. But if you have a 9 to 5 / Monday through Friday non-music related job any Fractal is ridiculous overkill, IMHO. Something like this TMPro makes having a ton of cool options in a single box a lot easier to just dive in and have fun with. I think 'ease of use' will be the next big thing over tons more amps and such in the all in one/does it all realm. (Or at least I hope so.) Again, just IMHO.
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The more you guys talk about this stuff the more I want it.
I can see how it is geared and marketed toward the "pro" (or prosumer), but...
Looks very simple and intuitive.
I would be happy with a more stripped down version, similar to the SCXD or Mustang models but in a smaller format and with a bit more tweakability.
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$1700 sounds like a lot for something I'd be stepping on?
Actually, I probably wouldn't. I'd probably find one amp model I liked and not use 95% of what this thing does.
YET STILL I AM INTERESTED.
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At least this avoids the whole issue of having to figure out what it is you actually need.
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For all things audio I go to Audiosciencereview.com. I believe open-back HPs are preferable for that application? If so I can definitely recommend the Sennheiser HD58X. Originally Posted by Navdeep_Singh
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