I finally caved

**TOMMO** · 03-30-2022, 04:16 AM

Call for moratorium on 335s

Cause the times they are - a - changing....

Seriously: Happy New Guitar Day - that's a beauty!

**CliffR** · 03-30-2022, 05:51 AM

Congrats Christian! Let me know when you cave on that Jackson.

**Franz 1997** · 03-30-2022, 06:36 AM

Excellent! and a cherry one too...now all you need is a steely dan tribute band and a tweed deluxe

**RobbieAG** · 03-30-2022, 09:12 AM

I look forward to seeing some videos with your new 335!

**Christian Miller** · 03-30-2022, 11:45 AM

Some tones. Everything is 335 here.

**Franz 1997** · 03-30-2022, 01:14 PM

Sounds like it came with those bendy 10s..

**Christian Miller** · 03-30-2022, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Franz 1997

Sounds like it came with those bendy 10s..

Maybe 11s? Not sure. A bit plinky for jazz.

EDIT says they are 10s on Gibsons site. That’s good, I’ll raise them to 11s… I’ve straightened the neck a little now. Plays lovely.

**Franz 1997** · 03-30-2022, 06:05 PM

That's the problem with 335s and teles- arguably the only two real do-it-all guitars. String gauge options anxiety!!
Definitely a first-world problem ( especially these days..)
I agree, 11s with a plain 018.

**sgosnell** · 03-30-2022, 06:20 PM

Put some .012s on it and play bebop. It's legal even in the UK, I believe. Dave Stryker plays one regularly, although he does have a Benedetto which he sometimes sneaks in.

**ccroft** · 03-30-2022, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by TOMMO

Call for moratorium on 335s

Nice search work Tommo! I remembered that but couldn't find it. (doesn't help that he changed his handle...)

Seems our man got over his musophobia! Congratulations Christian!

**Marinero** · 03-31-2022, 08:19 AM

Hi, C,
Congrats! The 335/Semi was the soup du jour for most Jazzers, R@B, Soul players in Chicago. It's still my favorite guitar and its potential for tone colors is unlimited. It's also easier to play(for me) as a jobber than an archtop. I rarely use an amp when I play(at home) on my '66 Gibson ES125TC and it's the best way to explore its real sound potential. Love the Cherry. Good playing!
Marinero

**Jabberwocky** · 04-01-2022, 02:30 AM

The coolest guitar in guitardom. Women seem to delight in the ES-335. The only problem with the ES-335 is that I don't have one.

Congrats, Christian. May she inspire you.

**Spook410** · 04-01-2022, 02:44 AM

A 335 fixes the two key problems with a Les Paul: Way too heavy and ergonomically unfit for playing seated. Hope you enjoy yours while exploring all the possibilities of a purely electric guitar.

**Christian Miller** · 04-01-2022, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Spook410

A 335 fixes the two key problems with a Les Paul: Way too heavy and ergonomically unfit for playing seated. Hope you enjoy yours while exploring all the possibilities of a purely electric guitar.

Well I have been playing a telecaster for several years so it’s not like I’ve been living in 1939 haha

but this guitar is quite a different beast. The singing sustain that it gives unplugged is very attractive and not having had real Les paul I can’t say if that’s something that it has in common, but I wouldn’t be surprised. The fender doesn’t have that.

Another thing is that mr tele doesn’t want me to go heavy with the right hand, turns into twangsville - not so good for jazz. So I’ve been using it as a way of training my right hand to do the even electric guitar thing. Mr 335 is very accepting of what ever dynamics I give it. I can play it like a macaferri if I want.

It does seem to compress everything; I’ve heard people talk about that as a quality of 335’s before.

**grahambop** · 04-01-2022, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

Well I have been playing a telecaster for several years so it’s not like I’ve been living in 1939 haha

no you’ve been living in 1950.

(I live blissfully in 1949 with my 175.)

**Christian Miller** · 04-01-2022, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by grahambop

no you’ve been living in 1950.

(I live blissfully in 1949 with my 175.)

Well, now I’ve moved into the far future of the mid 1970s

**sgosnell** · 04-01-2022, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

Well, now I’ve moved into the far future of the mid 1970s

More like the late 50s, very early 60s.

**grahambop** · 04-01-2022, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by sgosnell

More like the late 50s, very early 60s.

yes, 1958 apparently.

**John A.** · 04-01-2022, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

Well I have been playing a telecaster for several years so it’s not like I’ve been living in 1939 haha

but this guitar is quite a different beast. The singing sustain that it gives unplugged is very attractive and not having had real Les paul I can’t say if that’s something that it has in common, but I wouldn’t be surprised. The fender doesn’t have that.

Another thing is that mr tele doesn’t want me to go heavy with the right hand, turns into twangsville - not so good for jazz. So I’ve been using it as a way of training my right hand to do the even electric guitar thing. Mr 335 is very accepting of what ever dynamics I give it. I can play it like a macaferri if I want.

It does seem to compress everything; I’ve heard people talk about that as a quality of 335’s before.

I've owned a Les Paul and a non-Gibson semi (still have the semi, but not the LP), and a friend with whom I play very frequently has a LP and a 335. So I've actually done a lot of side-by-side comparisons between LP's, 335's, and non-G semis. There's a Venn diagram here -- you can get them to sound pretty much the same (i.e., about as similar as any two instances of the same model with slight differences in features or from different eras), but each can also get some sounds that the other doesn't quite get. Overall, in terms of the way the guitars feel/respond, I think there is touch of archtopiness to semis, but it's not 50/50. A 335 is a lot more like a LP than it is like a 175 to the player (but it's not exactly like a LP, either).

As far as sustain goes, I think it's basically the same overall. But because the frequency characteristics of the guitars are a bit different, through certain amps/volume/tone-settings/overdrive, one might sustain (or feedback) more than another. I can't really speak for tele sustain, but my strat sustains about the same as these guitars as far as I can tell (with the same caveat about the rest of the rig and settings), or maybe a bit more (even with the whammy bar floating).