Stratocaster pickup in my archtop

[Thumpalumpacus]

I *think* a split humbucker is weaker than an original single coil. But I'm not sure.

It almost always is ... one would have to use a ridiculously overwound humbucker to get split output comparable to a standard SC.

[p1p]

It almost always is ... one would have to use a ridiculously overwound humbucker to get split output comparable to a standard SC.

To me, a split humbucker sounds the same, but quieter and 'weaker' when split - not very close to the single coil sound in my opinion.

[Cavalier]

Probably won't give satisfactory results, because each humbucker bobbin carries less copper than a standard single-coil pickup.

This hasn't been my experience. I have coil split switches in a couple guitars and always found them useful. I'd suggest trying these before guessing how they work. Remember a switch pot can be used to avoid another hole.

[Cavalier]

To me, a split humbucker sounds the same, but quieter and 'weaker' when split - not very close to the single coil sound in my opinion.

Haven't had that result!

[sgosnell]

Gibson wiring is not optimal, it's just traditional. And tradition is more important to guitarists than anything else.

[Cunamara]

Gibson wiring is not optimal, it's just traditional. And tradition is more important to guitarists than anything else.

Often. Although not everyone felt that way:

Jerry Garcia's Tiger Schematic


Might be a bit beyond what the OP wanted. But Jerry's rig did solve the problem of the output drop with splitting humbuckers- the unity gain buffer balanced that out before the signal went to the volume knob.

I'd love to hear a clip of that Ibanez with the Start pickup in it.

[p1p]

Often. Although not everyone felt that way:

Jerry Garcia's Tiger Schematic


Might be a bit beyond what the OP wanted. But Jerry's rig did solve the problem of the output drop with splitting humbuckers- the unity gain buffer balanced that out before the signal went to the volume knob.

I'd love to hear a clip of that Ibanez with the Start pickup in it.

That's good to know. I'll probably rewire my split coil guitar (epi 339) in the future. Maybe just put another strat pickup in? hah..

I will record as soon as I get new strings delivered. I can't pay £20/pack locally for Chromes, that's just ridiculous.

[Thumpalumpacus]

This hasn't been my experience. I have coil split switches in a couple guitars and always found them useful. I'd suggest trying these before guessing how they work. Remember a switch pot can be used to avoid another hole.

It depends on the pickup. Some winders will pair up unequal bobbins in a humbucker, and then tap the stronger coil; that can produce a more robust SC tone, at the expense of some hum-cancelling ability.

[Lobomov]

It depends on the pickup. Some winders will pair up unequal bobbins in a humbucker, and then tap the stronger coil; that can produce a more robust SC tone, at the expense of some hum-cancelling ability.

I didn't know ypu paid a price one the humcancelling as the stronger bobbins is tapped to the same amount of wire as the weaker when in HB mode, but the PRS 408 setup has long temped me (except that they arent in my local stores and also pretty expensive as there are none on the used marked yet )

[Thumpalumpacus]

I didn't know ypu paid a price one the humcancelling as the stronger bobbins is tapped to the same amount of wire as the weaker when in HB mode, but the PRS 408 setup has long temped me (except that they arent in my local stores and also pretty expensive as there are none on the used marked yet )

I could be wrong; I'm relaying what I remember reading from winders on the subject. I'm not a winder myself.

[p1p]

Sorry, finally managed to get a clip of the strat pickup in the Ibanez here. Couldn't wait to get a few opinions, so this is just after putting new strings on and is just recorded from my phone.

I'm very much a beginner, so keep that in consideration! Any/all tips welcome.

Cheers

[Robertkoa]

I like the Tone a lot..

But I would have( personally for me ) the Humbucker Tone with a Switch for this type of Tone.

Playing sounds great for a beginner.
If you just smooth out your Timing no one will know you are a beginner.

Nice touch for the Tones too- that's the part you really have working for you ...

[p1p]

I like the Tone a lot..

But I would have( personally for me ) the Humbucker Tone with a Switch for this type of Tone.

Playing sounds great for a beginner.
If you just smooth out your Timing no one will know you are a beginner.

Nice touch for the Tones too- that's the part you really have working for you ...

Thanks Robert. I might up the string gauge at some point, but liking it for the time being.

Thanks for the comments on the playing too. There's a lot for me to work on, and I have a hard time prioritizing it all. I hope others can offer some feedback

[Boston Joe]

Wow, that sounds really great! How did you mount the pickup?

[Robertkoa]

Thanks Robert. I might up the string gauge at some point, but liking it for the time being.

Thanks for the comments on the playing too. There's a lot for me to work on, and I have a hard time prioritizing it all. I hope others can offer some feedback

Especially if you know what you are trying to achieve there are a LOT of really smart and talented Players / Music Theorists / etc who can give you great pointers.

I am thinking of ordering an Archtop with single coil switches to get Both the full Phatt Humbucker tones and the nice resonant single coil Tones similar to what you have achieved.

If you have a nice Android Phone or Iphone you can Download The Ireal App which has hundreds of tunes you can play along with ...

And modify them or just use the Drum Parts to play along with.

A Timing Reference will tighten up your Playing and you sound like you will progress quickly..based on Tone and Touch..

Called Ireal Pro / Irealb Link Below


iReal Pro - Music Book & Backing Tracks - Android Apps on Google Play

[p1p]

Especially if you know what you are trying to achieve there are a LOT of really smart and talented Players / Music Theorists / etc who can give you great pointers.

I am thinking of ordering an Archtop with single coil switches to get Both the full Phatt Humbucker tones and the nice resonant single coil Tones similar to what you have achieved.

If you have a nice Android Phone or Iphone you can Download The Ireal App which has hundreds of tunes you can play along with ...

And modify them or just use the Drum Parts to play along with.

A Timing Reference will tighten up your Playing and you sound like you will progress quickly..based on Tone and Touch..

Called Ireal Pro / Irealb Link Below


iReal Pro - Music Book & Backing Tracks - Android Apps on Google Play

Thanks, I'll check it out. I've pretty much only been playing along with recordings, and playing over basic progressions with my looper pedal. I think it's time for backing tracks, and definitely the metronome..

I'll try to be more active on the forum too, as I'm finding it quite helpful so far. Thanks all!

[p1p]

Wow, that sounds really great! How did you mount the pickup?

Humbucker Rout adapter ring- Fits Strat pickup- Straight- THREE COLORS

The pickup is a Fender Original 57/62, and the cap is a Jupiter yellow vintage tone

[Herbie]

(...)
If you have a nice Android Phone or Iphone you can Download The Ireal App which has hundreds of tunes you can play along with ...
And modify them or just use the Drum Parts to play along with.
A Timing Reference will tighten up your Playing and you sound like you will progress quickly..based on Tone and Touch..
Called Ireal Pro / Irealb Link Below

Don't want to steal the thread or to contradict anybody but just saw this video about backing tracks spoiling Your timing:

No, my timing has not been spoiled by backing tracks, I spoiled it by myself!

[Frank67]

I like the tone a lot! Great idea. Start neck pickups sound great - warm, detailed with great clarity. No mud but sparkle.
keep up the good work!

[Hep To The Jive]

Don't want to steal the thread or to contradict anybody but just saw this video about backing tracks spoiling Your timing:

No, my timing has not been spoiled by backing tracks, I spoiled it by myself!

This guy is spot on! Backing tracks are ok, but only is the leisure time, when you done all the practicing and want to relax and have fun.

And yes, great tone with that strat pickup, it worked out all right!

[Boston Joe]

Humbucker Rout adapter ring- Fits Strat pickup- Straight- THREE COLORS

The pickup is a Fender Original 57/62, and the cap is a Jupiter yellow vintage tone

Nice.

[omphalopsychos]

It sounds unsurprisingly great! Congrats.

[mr. beaumont]

Sounds great. It's probably lower output, but if I was blindfolded, I'd say it sounds quite a bit like what a P90 sounds like in the neck position of an archtop.

Glad your experiment proved (very) worthwhile...now...how much do I want to find a way to get a tele neck pickup into an archtop?

[p1p]

Sounds great. It's probably lower output, but if I was blindfolded, I'd say it sounds quite a bit like what a P90 sounds like in the neck position of an archtop.

Glad your experiment proved (very) worthwhile...now...how much do I want to find a way to get a tele neck pickup into an archtop?

Happy to be that devil on your shoulder

...you know you want to


And thanks guys, I'm really enjoying playing this guitar, which is the most important part of it for me right now... need all the practice I can get

[mr. beaumont]

Happy to be that devil on your shoulder

...you know you want to

It'd be fun, but I only own one guitar with a humbucker neck route "ready to fill/experiment" with, and I love the pickup that's already in there.