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Yes, and I wasn't aware enough to check the Imperial 5 years ago when it was here. So perhaps someone can chime in about the Imperial. But the Cremona has no soundpost.
Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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07-06-2016 07:00 PM
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Correct as far as I can ascertain, my all-solid but not carved Renaissance Custombears that out, but see the paragraph immediately below the video review of the Jezebel here regarding specification variations: Peerless Jezebel review | MusicRadar Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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More on OEM manufacturer BHK here( from a note I made some five years ago - no source noted so cannot confirm 100%). Apparently BHK stands for Booheung Precision Machining, a Korean company who make all sorts of things. The pickups usually have stickers and I think BHK is Booheung, made in Korea, and BHC is made in China. Originally Posted by blackcat
Exactly. Mind you, a bit beyond the call of duty to go and strip down your Monarch Lawson! Pity they never sought to create a small outlet groove for the cable as it leaves the housing thus keeping everything hunky dory size-wise.
Link to the Specs: http://guitarsnjazz.com/product/peerless-monarch/
David
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Did this ever get sorted out and resolved? The QC issues raised throughout this thread are more than somewhat off-putting for someone close to making a guitar purchase decision and weighing Peerless, Eastman and Godin options.
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Don't overreact. 50 threads glowing about Peerless guitars. One about a guitar that should have remained at the factory until the pickup was properly mounted. You'll find problem guitars with the brands you mention, and Gibson too. As Aaron Rodgers said. Relax. Originally Posted by Llewellen
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I'm not hyper-ventilating or ODing on tranquilizers but if something that glaringly obvious makes it all the way through the Peerless QC inspections, my antennae issue an alert. That misaligned PU wasn't a mistake - it was just plain sloppy. The fact that other brands may have QC issues from time to time doesn't excuse such a basic mess up by Peerless in this case. Anyone who had bothered even to look could have seen that the PU was mounted improperly. Either no one bothered to look, or no one cared. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Don't overreact. 50 threads glowing about Peerless guitars. One about a guitar that should have remained at the factory until the pickup was properly mounted. You'll find problem guitars with the brands you mention, and Gibson too. As Aaron Rodgers said. Relax.
The OP's particular retailer circumstances made things difficult but IMO that guitar should have been back in the box and on its return way in a nano second, with a demand for a refund.
What's that old saying? - "You never get a second chance to make a first impression".
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I could not agree more, but it's not a perfect world. Expecting it to be could potentially lead to mental paralysis Originally Posted by Llewellen
On the plus side, it was a guitar that was bought, rather than an automobile, aka lemon. There's always a silver lining should one look for it
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I think that the issue has more to do with the fact that Peerless has sourced a very deep pick up in comparison to others that are available rather than overall QC issues. Granted they should change the spec on the pick up, but I would venture a guess that all the other build issues are pretty decent. Originally Posted by Llewellen
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So... How's it sound? That's the bottom line. It is often necessary to drop the bass side of a pickup in order to gave a well balanced tone; that may be all that's happening here. The pickup should not touch the top, but not touching is enough. 0.1 mm is enough clearance.
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OK so they made a design error. I don't feel any more comfortable. Originally Posted by lammie200
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I understand, but if someone likes a Monarch for every other reason except for this one I would think that it would a easy rationalization to deal with it. Originally Posted by Llewellen
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Could be. All this just reinforces for me (why should it need reinforcing?) the imperative to deal only with a reputable retailer who will take the guitar back for a full refund without a murmur of complaint if any of these issues arise. Originally Posted by lammie200
I'm particularly sensitive to this because I'm currently dealing with a design error (neck set incorrectly) on an inexpensive guitar (Raines) and the vendor (Matt Raines) is nowhere to be found when the subject of his "lifetime warranty" is raised.
Fool me once....
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Just now reading this thread - seems like the issue of the treble side of the p/u being slightly jacked up because of the wire under the edge of the cover could be handled pretty easily either with a Dremel or hand-filing a semi-circular notch out of the underside edge of the cover, so the wire could be routed out without interfering with the p/u. Since it's up against the pickguard it would likely be invisible. Problem solved? Or maybe I missed it...
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I think it would work fine, but if you made a mistake with the drill or Dremel and damaged the leads or coils, it could ruin the pickup. Originally Posted by northernbreed
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Of course it's fixable. That's not the point, as far as I'm concerned. Why should the purchaser of a brand new guitar be saddled with fixing anything, except perhaps for installing their favourite strings and adjusting the action and intonation? Originally Posted by northernbreed
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You've made your point many times. You seem to be projecting your Raines experience onto this thread, which isn't fair to Peerless, or any other guitar maker. Originally Posted by Llewellen
Fact remains, this lone faulty pickup installation shouldn't make one paranoid against Peerless. Why, each of us must take responsibility for ourselves, AND purchases a guitar correctly.
Since you brought it up, did you buy the Raines guitar right? Meaning, paying by credit card, and or via Paypal? If yes, then you have recourse via your credit card company, and or paypal. If no, then you've just learned guitar purchase 101, no matter how much confidence one has in the seller, the purchase is on you, the buyer to purchase correctly, and not leave your *** flapping in the wind.
My apologies if I'm too blunt for you.
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No, you're not too blunt. Uncomprehending of my previous posts but not too blunt. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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Well there's the part about the bridge saddle being really too low for comfort, or future adjustment. A Dremel could work there too, but it would involve using it as a router. Maybe with a file, you could cut the saddle slots deeper so the strings could sit farther down into the wood. That would give you some extra room to adjust the action. Originally Posted by northernbreed
There are lots of goofy solutions to make a lemon into a workable instrument. I advocate them all. There's nothing like doing serious work on a new guitar to bond with it. I see videos all the time about people adopting two legged dogs and keeping fish that can't swim. I think it makes the owners stronger.
There's a valuable life lesson here.
David
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Yep! My thinking was that, from the pics, the pickup cover looks like it extends down past the actual pickup inside maybe, what, 1/16" - 1/8" or so? If that's the case, carefully carving a small U-shaped channel in the edge of the pickup cover (about the width of the cable plus a bit more) through which the cable could be routed might solve the unfortunate issue, and not involve the pickup or other wiring. But again, hard to tell for sure from the pics. It might create a different problem. Originally Posted by lawson-stone
And yes, in regards to a comment above, of course, buying a new guitar that has no issues is preferable. And in my experience, it happens, but not as often as I'd like.
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Also, if the guitar is 98% perfect, with only one issue, that is fixable without doing any real harm, I prefer fixing it to the hassle and risk of shipping back and exchanging. Everybody has a "threshold" of sorts where they decide shipping it back is best, versus fixing something. It depends on one's skills and also on how much one likes that particular guitar. My Peerless is super nice. The pickup angle is the only blemish, and so I'm thinking of trying the notch fix later this summer when I get back from vacation. Originally Posted by northernbreed
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Hey All
I've been looking at the pickup on my Peerless Monarch, and I want to edit, modify, maybe retract the impression I had.
Looking at the picture, if you compare the pickup to the guitar's top, it looks off-kilter. But if you look at the fingerboard and the strings, it looks fine.
I remembered this AM that you can contour the top of an archtop according to two ideas. The first, the older, is to contour the top as a non-cutaway, then "cut it away" with the result being binding that is wider in the cutaway, but the arch is symmetrical (except for the cutaway). This is how the L5c works.
But the other way, which I associate mainly with Benedetto inspired guitars, is to contour the top with the cutaway in mind, with the recurve going around the whole edge of the top. You can look at these tops and see the little extension of the arch into the cutaway area.
The result is that the top, near the fingerboard and cutaway, is not symmetrical. So if the pickup is aligned with the fingerboard and strings, it might look slightly mis-aligned with the top.
This is what I'm seeing with my guitar, and it might be worth double-checking our impressions of this instrument and its construction. Note also the picture below is a little bit askew. Look at the pickup with reference to the end of the fingerboard.
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Change that pup - Problem solved!
I wonder how many lesson sells Matt Otten has earned from those taking the plunge after viewing Monarch videos?
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My point was that even if you change the pickup, it will still seem out of alignment with the top, because the top is an asymmetrical L-R contour. The alignment with the fingerboard and strings is fine on mine. Don't know about the OP. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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Excellent observation!
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