Henriksen The Bud vs DV Mark Little Jazz

**jorgemg1984** · 06-18-2015, 07:32 PM

Exactly, a cheaper Fuchs basically

**Hep To The Jive** · 06-18-2015, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Quilter makes actual amps, good ones at that. I've almost started to think of the ZT's not as amps but as powered speakers that expect something in front of them.

My henriksen gives me the best and most consistent sound I can get, but in a pinch, I can get some pretty darn good tones out of a lunchbox with a Tech 21 Blonde in front of it, especially if I want that vintage tone with a little "hair" to the hardest hit notes...

I think that's the point with ZT - it's like clean canvas of tone that you use pedals with to add colors. At least that what I figured. The reverb on it is awful, but with Digitech plate reverb pedal the amp sounds really good. Plus EP booster and/or Blue Note overdrive I recently got, and the tone is there!

I checked Quilter micro-pro, and indeed it got the great tone, the only thing I hate about it is aesthetics .. It's kinda ugly to my taste on the pics, but maybe it looks better in flesh?

Also, Quilter is class D design, and ZT is class A/B. What does it mean? Please educate me a little, thanks!

**DanielleOM** · 07-01-2015, 09:57 PM

Here's an article on amplifier classes: Understanding Amplifier Operating ?Classes? | Analog content from Electronic Design

**Keira Witherkay** · 07-02-2015, 12:13 AM

yes as a longtime ZT LBA user at gigs... the volume needed to perform differs radically depending on size of venue/audience/band or solo/duo/trio /drummer or not/ even the type of guitar used... 
 
as you guys probably know from my posts i love these small compact type amps....one can put in a gig bag ...and weighs 3 - 5 kg and i do pro gigs, but i have yet to find one of these compact amps where as a player i did not have to compromise somewhere ....either in low end/tone/acoustic presence/room filling ability /overall volume .......... 
 
*** irony is even a princeton (which i too agree is fabulous jazz tone ) can be too soft ....for some gigs.... as YES one can turn it up louder but past a certain level the tone shifts from sweet jazz to edgier jazz tone... so to me the secret is headroom ..... i have recently (will post vids soon) found a German made Engl tube amp combo (thunder 50 the 1st series model the new model is available but this one discontinued ) which is aimed at rock and blues...but has a crystal clean clean channel and 4x 12ax7's and 2x 6L6's so very Fender ish BUT the 50W of tube power means i barely drive the amp and it sounds huge .... so tons of clean headroom ...and here's the kicker it weighs just 17lb's thats about 7.7 kg so a 12 inch speaker 50W of tube tone that sounds Fenderish and tons of headroom for sweet jazz tones and under 8 kg ... with spring reverb ...and German made 
 
so yes there are other options out there ...granted bigger and slightly heavier BUT so much more "giggable" meaning if you perform it could handle most anything ...........so just be aware of the choices before like me you find these small super compact amps always lead to some compromise .....

**Wildcat** · 07-02-2015, 08:21 AM

After reading this thread, I believe the DV Mark Jazz 12 would be a good choice for me. I have a chance for a DV Mark Jazz 12 for about $300 locally. Being a novice, volume is not so much a concern as my public playing is limited. Does this make sense?

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**DanielleOM** · 07-02-2015, 02:05 PM

Wildcat, This amp has been discussed before here and I suggest you search for some old postings. There was concern expressed about the fan in the unit. I am not sure if it's audible for home low volume use.

Danielle

**Wildcat** · 07-02-2015, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by DanielleOM

Wildcat, This amp has been discussed before here and I suggest you search for some old postings. There was concern expressed about the fan in the unit. I am not sure if it's audible for home low volume use.

Danielle

Thanks for the information. I did read about the fan.

**jzucker** · 07-02-2015, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

Chris I believe going with more watts would not imply significant extra costs on the power amp side but probably on the speaker side... just guessin, there's no other reason for going with 45w.

The eminence beta 10 speaker costs about $70 and is rated for 250w but I'm guessing the manufacturer cost on whatever 45w speaker DV Mark is using costs significantly less. With a 4x markup, the emi beta 10 would likely cost DV Mark $50 and would add $200 to the cost. If they are getting a cheap 45w speaker for $20 it only adds $80 to the cost.

**nodog** · 07-04-2015, 05:26 AM

Hi
I found these samples on a German site which posts the DV Mark little jazz 4 different audio samples and setups for the little jazz. Sounds nice .

DV Mark DV Little Jazz Test - Seite 2 :: Bonedo

**munkienl** · 07-04-2015, 06:22 AM

I have the DV Mark Little jazz, Roland Cube 60, the Lunchbox. I don't have a car so the Roland is too heavy. The Lunchbox is ideal for traveling bit it MUST be placed on the floor with its back against the wall. Get all the extra bass you can get. Bitching boombox for your Ipod/Ipad/smartphone as well. It's LOUD for its size!

The DV Mark is bigger but still very portable and light weight. It sounds much fuller and warmer than the Lunchbox. The voicing of the amp is very warm, with some guitars with big flatwounds you have to turn up the treble all the way. The reverb sounds a bit funny when you turn it up. The fan is annoying in the living room. I took it out to play with a Klezmer band. In the rehearsal room the fan wasn't an issue. For jazz combo's the volume should be enough. For blues, i doubt it.

Sound clips: with SM57 mike:

With the XLR line out:

https://soundcloud.com/munkienl/dv-m...le-jazz-direct

**nodog** · 07-04-2015, 10:17 AM

Hi Munkienel,
You are getting a real nice tone there with that amp. I have recently bought a little jazz i think it sounds fab. The fan does not bother me too much if it did i would replace the fan for something quieter.I have never used the XLR line out in the back of the amp does that colour the tone do you think and is that only for input to a mixing desk. best regards. Have you tried it through a cab using the speaker out jack.
Nodog.

**jzucker** · 07-04-2015, 11:10 AM

ok, i listened to all the dv mark clips. It sounds good but I think the mambo sounds better. Of course, it's 3x the price. For home practicing and smaller gigs the dv mark should be great but I was expecting more tubey goodness out of it and i'm not hearing that. Just sounds like a clean solid state amp with reverb to me.

**Longways to Go** · 07-04-2015, 11:32 AM

I have a 2x8 cab that works great with the Little Jazz. Pumps up the volume and also raises the Little amp up off the floor-- though it sort of defeats the portability of the little combo along the way . . .

Regarding the tubey goodness, I believe the mid knob adds some grit as you turn it up, and cleans up as you turn it down. I don't know if it sounds tubey or not, but it definitely thickens up the sound.

The tone controls are one of my favorite things about the Little Jazz. Very intuitive for me.

**jzucker** · 07-04-2015, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Longways to Go

I have a 2x8 cab that works great with the Little Jazz. Pumps up the volume and also raises the Little amp up off the floor-- though it sort of defeats the portability of the little combo along the way . . .

Regarding the tubey goodness, I believe the mid knob adds some grit as you turn it up, and cleans up as you turn it down. I don't know if it sounds tubey or not, but it definitely thickens up the sound.

The tone controls are one of my favorite things about the Little Jazz. Very intuitive for me.

i'm talking about bright, transparent tube compression that you can only get from a nice, fender style preamp. The only solid state amps that can get that are utilizing modeling.

**munkienl** · 07-04-2015, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by nodog

Hi Munkienel,
You are getting a real nice tone there with that amp. I have recently bought a little jazz i think it sounds fab. The fan does not bother me too much if it did i would replace the fan for something quieter.I have never used the XLR line out in the back of the amp does that colour the tone do you think and is that only for input to a mixing desk. best regards. Have you tried it through a cab using the speaker out jack.
Nodog.

See the bottom link in my original post. I like the miked sound better but as long as you keep it clean the direct out is OK for direct silent recording or sending a signal to the PA mixer.