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the grail .....
Originally Posted by jzucker
i hope it sounds great jack
will get the same thing one day
if it works out for you
the grail .... could be !
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06-17-2015 08:54 AM
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Sure, DV Mark Little Jazz is underpowered for a loud drummer, but it has only an 8" speaker, which is too little speaker for a loud setting too -- that's clearly not what it was intended for. Same is true for Roland Cube 30, and all other nice sounding amps with small speakers. They are more like small heads with a small speaker built in.
Little Jazz does have a line out so you can increase volume through a powered PA speaker if needed. Seems to me that could work fine. For me a more important question is the tone of the amp? DV Mark Little Jazz delivers great tone IMO.
Yes, too bad it's not 150 watts, but it sounds great for what it is.
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There are a ton of folks gigging in NY with an Acoustic Image head and a NY-8 speaker so the above statement is definitely not true. Lots of folks are gigging with the mambo 8 too. The other point is that with a more powerful amp you can add a 2nd speaker to it which helps in cutting through a bigger band. With the lower power of the DV Mark, it's not going to help much. Again, it's probably a fine amp for a solo gig or quiet band with the drummer playing brushes but as soon as that loud tenor sax player starts playing brecker or berg lines, it's going to get swamped in a hurry. That's why I always use something with at least 100W even if the original gig might be ok with 45. Originally Posted by Longways to Go
And sure, you can put anything through a powered PA speaker. Why not just use a zoom pedal then?
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2nd speaker vs powered PA cab . . . who cares? It's another box -- similar solutions getting you to the same place.
Zoom vs Little Jazz is simple -- the Little Jazz sounds really good.
BTW JZ, I figured you'd negate my comment but I dove in anyway-- seems like you always know better . . .
Meanwhile, looking forward to your review of the Mambo Combo.
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I hate it when folks voice their opinions and then someone counters it with a claim that the other person seems like he always knows better. I know better what works for me and generally what works for guys I know. I don't see a problem expressing my opinion. You certainly didn't have a problem expressing yours. The difference is that I didn't get personal about you expressing yours. This place is the same story, over and over with no moderation. Gets really tired. Originally Posted by Longways to Go
I'm out.
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I apologize, lord of all guitar gods.
I thought this was a conversation, not your sermon on how much power you need.
Really, I'd rather hear more about the OP topic of Little Jazz vs Henriksen Bud etc
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Durn. I was looking forward to Jack's review of the Mambo amp.
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Excuse me lord of all message groups. Didn't realize this was your group and that only opinions that meet your criteria are welcome. Originally Posted by Longways to Go
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Stop shouting at each other - I can't hear my Little Jazz over the noise! :-)
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Question to the Mambo amp owners here: do these amp have something like a master volume? Is it possible to get a semi- dirty tone? I own ZT Lunchbox, and besides portability, I really dig gain and volume on it, so I can always escape that dead clean tone. I wonder if Mambo amp can get something like that? And yes, I'm not a fan of pristine clean tones of modern jazz, I going for 30-40s sound, or anything bluesy sounding. Thanks!
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FWIW -
I tried the Bud, it was a marvel of engineering and packaging, but geared towards acoustic instruments IMO (AER ish?). Returned with no problems whatsoever.
I went with an inexpensive SS, relatively light, easily transportable grab and go. If you want a Fenderish sound with reverb, you have a lot of choices to pick from and tweak. Works well with achtops and solid bodies.
I'm sure many will say its too big, too heavy, or sounds nothing like a Fender amp etc, or they don't like the presets or reverbs, but for the money, this a good solution for me when I don't want/need a tube amp. BTW - the presets are extremely easy to tweak - just turn knobs. I especially like a blackface with a little hair added of a toned down tweed.
Please, no pitchforks or torches, laughter is OK - Mustang III, $329 new.
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The moderation is fine. The problem is *you*. Originally Posted by jzucker
I think you have good intentions and I don't think you're a bad dude, but you just do not have the personality to get along with folks on an Internet forum. I don't even know why you bother given every 3rd posting of yours is you getting all angry and flustered. Is this making your life better??
Also your constant ravings about folks not using their real names is very naive. Many of us have dayjobs that would not look kindly on business hour postings. Or we have careers in which discretion and privacy are paramount. Maybe our clients don't want their lawyer or doctor or engineer or dentist or contractor or musical director engaging in petty arguments about amplifiers online.Last edited by coolvinny; 06-18-2015 at 03:13 PM.
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It does have a master volume but I am not sure that will make the sounds you describe possible to achieve. E-mail Jon, the owner. Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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The mambo has a switch on it where you can select harmonic or clean. When you select harmonic, the input gain stage adds even order harmonics to the signal as you raise the gain. This doesn't give you a distorted sound ala a mesa boogie but does add a little bit of tube-like grit to your signal. The amp in general has a more tube like feel than any of the other solid state amps I've tried except for maybe the quilter. The quilter might be a better fit for you. Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
And Jorge is correct. You do not get a noticeable overdrive by turning up the gain control.
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I really love Henriksens. I have a 110 and a 112. I set all the EQ settings just to high noon and always get a perfect tone just by using my tone control on my axe. Plenty of volume for any gig. The reverb is just OK so if I had a complaint I guess that would be it but I never heard a SS amp that had fantastic reverb. For reverb you can't beat spring/tube reverb IMO. Nothing I hate more than fiddling with amp knobs trying to get my sound. I just turn on the power of my Henriksen and I am good to go. Once in a while a minor EQ tweak in a boomy room with the 112. I would really love to try a Rivera Jazz Suprema 25w 110 but it's not simple like a Henriksen. Seems like a lot of tweaking might be needed to get your sound but I don't know. Like Jack says nothing worse than not having enough horsepower and for me nothing worse than not getting my sound. My heaven tone will always be my Fender Twin.
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I'm not sure I need a noticeable overdrive? Or maybe I do? If what you describing is a tube amp pushed to create a slight breakup then yes, that's exactly what I need. ZT can do it very well, at least to my ears, and folks say Mambo is much better, but then I found most are looking for pristine clean tones, and maybe thats why Mambo is better in that regard, but for me it wouldn't be... Quilter I might check again, but from what I heard previously didnt grab me as upgrade from ZT. Originally Posted by jzucker
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I also love the henriksen. It's a great, warm jazz tone. My only slight niggle with it is that the treble control is voiced too high for jazz. I think Jorge had his modified. I know several folks using a barber barbeq to get a more guitaristic treble response. My acoustic image corus has the same issue although mine was revoiced to be in a better range. It's still not exactly in the right place to be able to get a good funk rhythm sound.
But for a dark, smokey jazz sound both the henriksen and AI work fine at 12 O'Clock.
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i think quilter is a big upgrade from ZT and of all the SS amps is the most tube-like so I'd recommend checking it out, particularly the latest micro-pro. I had an aviator and felt that the midrange was harsh so I did not keep it but maybe that's been addressed with the newest products? Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Quilter makes actual amps, good ones at that. I've almost started to think of the ZT's not as amps but as powered speakers that expect something in front of them.
My henriksen gives me the best and most consistent sound I can get, but in a pinch, I can get some pretty darn good tones out of a lunchbox with a Tech 21 Blonde in front of it, especially if I want that vintage tone with a little "hair" to the hardest hit notes...
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A Quilter Aviator head through a Raezer's Edge NY 8 or a Stealth 10 is my preferred SS "tube amp" rig for tele, strat, and 335. But an AI Clarus through a Twin 8 is best for my Heritage Eagle. I've got two great tube amps that I hardly ever use anymore.
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I liked my Henriksen after adding a new reverb and with an EV12-L speaker, but I like the Mambo a lot more.
I disagree that it's hard to do good reverbs - never been easier, just look at how many good reverb pedals there are... yes a good DSP emulation of a spring reverb is hard but a good digital reverb is very easy to do these days but "jazz amp" makers are usually a little lazy on that department (exception for Mambo). The stock reverbs on the FV-1 chip (used by Mambo) or the Accutronics ones (designed by Neunaber) are both pretty good.
The "verge of breakup" sound is the hardest to emulate imo, analog solid state or digital. Clean and distorted are much easier... the original Mambo had more gain and could emulate that sound better but still not ideal. I tried once a lovepedal pedal I liked for that, maybe that's an option.
Never tried a Quilter, would like too. Still wish they (or anyone else) just made a fender preamp into a class d power amp into a high power jensen type speaker in a small open back cab (eminence texas heat maybe?). With a decent reverb, of course
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I very much like my Henriksens, but:
a) The reverb isn't very good; I just set mine at 9 O'Clock and leave it there.
b) The 10K knob does nothing for electric guitar; I just set mine at 12 O'Clock and think of the EQ as being 4-bands, not 5.
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My only beef with Mambo is if i ever try one, i'm probably gonna end up buying one
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fuchs makes a fender preamp going into a class d power amp but it's not cheap.
Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
I liked my Henriksen after adding a new reverb and with an EV12-L speaker, but I like the Mambo a lot more.
I disagree that it's hard to do good reverbs - never been easier, just look at how many good reverb pedals there are... yes a good DSP emulation of a spring reverb is hard but a good digital reverb is very easy to do these days but "jazz amp" makers are usually a little lazy on that department (exception for Mambo). The stock reverbs on the FV-1 chip (used by Mambo) or the Accutronics ones (designed by Neunaber) are both pretty good.
The "verge of breakup" sound is the hardest to emulate imo, analog solid state or digital. Clean and distorted are much easier... the original Mambo had more gain and could emulate that sound better but still not ideal. I tried once a lovepedal pedal I liked for that, maybe that's an option.
Never tried a Quilter, would like too. Still wish they (or anyone else) just made a fender preamp into a class d power amp into a high power jensen type speaker in a small open back cab (eminence texas heat maybe?). With a decent reverb, of course
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