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Just received an '81 175, maple neck...Has a really bad tail-rise on the bass side and extreme buzzing at the 14th fret and above. It's in great condition though and if the sound knocked me out, I'd have kept it and spent the money on a replaning/refret of the board but it was bright and shrill sounding. Was not a good one, unfortunately.
So. that's it. I've run out of enthusiasm and patience with 175s. Unless I get a chance to get to NY and find a great one I'm sticking with my Heritage Eagle Classic.
I really wanted a 24.75" guitar but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, sigh...
this one had a pick inside it like the last one. Does that come with all 175s?
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01-31-2014 06:10 PM
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Bummer!
Originally Posted by jzucker
Just received an '81 175, maple neck...Has a really bad tail-rise on the bass side and extreme buzzing at the 14th fret and above. It's in great condition though and if the sound knocked me out, I'd have kept it and spent the money on a replaning/refret of the board but it was bright and shrill sounding. Was not a good one, unfortunately.
So. that's it. I've run out of enthusiasm and patience with 175s. Unless I get a chance to get to NY and find a great one I'm sticking with my Heritage Eagle Classic.
I really wanted a 24.75" guitar but it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, sigh...
this one had a pick inside it like the last one. Does that come with all 175s?
Have you considered that Guild X 180 that 2b has for sale? I believe it was made in Westerly . . . which more than likely means it's great quality. The price was pretty good too.
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Were the strings rusty too?
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no, but when i called them about it and they took it off the wall for an in-hand description the guy played it and apparently it was setup with .010 strings. I had them put on d'addario .12 chromes so the strings were brand new. Originally Posted by AlainJazz
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no, i had a guild x-170 a while back and didn't care for it much. I did have a stewart which was fabulous but stupidly sold it. Originally Posted by Patrick2
What do you think of the 575 for a dark, smokey jazz tone to compliment my eagle? There's a beautiful walnut one on HOC but it appears to be setup with .010s...
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Honestly . . . I've yet to come across a 575 with a tone that I could identify as dark, smokey jazz tone. Jazz tones . . to be sure, but most I've played have pronounced mids and highs to equaly out the lows. Good balance and great clarity, but definitely not dark. Also, unless you're buying new to your own spec . . with a 575 you just never know what you're gonna get. They weren't made in the same cookie cutter fashion as the 175 as it relates to consistency. If it was made to a customer's spec', there are a variety of at least 3 different pups that could be in it. Similarly with the neck profile. It could be anywhere from very thin to Louisville Slugger . . . based upon what the original spec was. With your very particular wants and needs in a guitar, if you find the 575 that pleases you . . It'll be a greater stroke of good luck than it would if you found a 175 that pleases you. Originally Posted by jzucker
You mentioned that the strings were changed from slinky .010s to .012 chromes. Sometimes the additional string pull disturbs the neck in strange ways. Why not give the guitar a day or two to settle in . . if your return agreement allows for that. If it doesn't ask the selling shop for 2 more days to evaluate for the reasons I've suggested
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if the guitar sounded great I'd be willing to plane and refret it but it's mediocre. a $3k guitar should be great sounding.
Thanks for the advice on the 575
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I just played a sunburst, 2 pickup, '59 reissue ES-175 that a friend bought new from the MF ebay site for $2,750. They had four of them at that price. Wow. Fantastic guitar. Superb playability, classic sound (I tried it through an '80s Polytone MB), great neck, beautiful finish.
I had played a few of them before as well - at NAMM, at MIAC, and at a couple of retail stores in Toronto as well as New York. All the ones I played were superb guitars.
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tried to find one of those but I think they're now auctioning them instead of selling at fixed prices. No warranty either.
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So bid $2750.
That's what two people I know did, and they both won their auctions.
30 day return policy.
No need for the warranty if the guitar is OK out of the box, IMO.
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new wood can move in mysterious ways. the lifetime warranty is a nice feature. If it was a 30 year old guitar I'd agree with you.
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
MF site? Any links?
Thanks.
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I bought my L5 Wesmo brand new from Guitar Bratz in TX. Scotty is an absolute wonderful professional and a gentleman. He got it from a Historic Collection dealer and I bought it with no regrets. He could probably get you a new '59 reissue 175. Originally Posted by jzucker
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thanks Patrick. send me an email offline. The new price of those instruments seems to be $3999.
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I bought a 66/69 a few weeks ago and returned it. The guitar sounded fine, but I couldn't get used to the neck. It was 1 11/16", but still slender. I bought a '59 Reissue and really, really like it. It's got a fat neck, but not as fat as my 2006 P-90 ES-175, which is perfect. The necks on the Reissues vary a bit so you have to get measurements when you buy. I've noticed that the one-pickup models seem to have thinner necks. Most people describe the production models from the 2000s as boat anchors, but mine has a full, rich acoustic sound with a robust bottom end. The Reissue doesn't have that (not sure if it will break in like an acoustic), but has a beautiful, articulate plugged-in sound.
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I have a standard maple 2-pickup (schallers) model and a single pickup (59s) model with a spruce top. I am not sure if it would fit your description exactly but the spruce top guitar gives me what I think about when I say dark, smokey jazz. Not so the maple top. Originally Posted by jzucker
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Theres a real 59 on gbase from Kentucky vintage at 3,5k with replaced pus ? I have bought Roger's '57 last year and it is a completely different beast from my best buds '78, thinner lighter and (when played acoustically) much louder. If that '59 is anything like mine, I cannot imagine whats not to like. And as it is free of its PAFs , youd be able to experiment a bit with neck PUs. If that doesnt work out, Id think a 175 just isnt for you.
Last edited by fws6; 02-01-2014 at 10:52 AM.
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they sold that. don't know why they continue to list it. classic gbase BS... Originally Posted by fws6
Last edited by jzucker; 02-01-2014 at 12:17 PM.
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Originally Posted by Hammertone
There were four, all on ebay earlier this month. Two people I know each got one at $2,750. Looks like they have sold, which is understandeable at that price. Snooze/lose, but yours is better anyway. Originally Posted by Philco
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Just a thought without any direct knowledge but…Metheny grew up playing a late 50's 175 and has been happy with his Ibanez PM200
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...FdHm7AodDhMA1w
I would think Pat could afford any old Gibson he wanted, and I don't think he would play something he didn't really love. Might be worth checking out?
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I know this is out of your price range, Jack (and mine!) but it looks perfect. There's something about the body profile on pics of the reissues that doesn't look quite right to me, around the waist, but I'm still interested in the reissues, anyway.
http://www.emeraldcityguitars.com/pr...gibson-es-175/
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Jack,
I have a 1993 Guild X-500 I am looking to part with.
It is in pristine condition with its original case and was my absolute favorite guitar until I recently got the new American Patriarch X-500, and now that is about all I play.
Another option to consider is a New York or Hoboken CE-100. I just sold one, and not only is it a phenomenal guitar, but it was modeled after and intended to directly compete with the ES-175. They are also available in excellent condition for well under 2K at times. I compared my 1956 CE-100 against a 1963 X-175, and to me I much preferred the CE-100 for tone and playability.
Let me know if you are interested in the X-500, and best of luck either way.
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Laminated Spruce Top. Laminated Maple everywhere else. Made in Japan.
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it's not a matter of "afford". I'm surprised so many people buy into the endorsement artists guitars. Pat actually makes money off those. That's why it's more expensive. And ibanez created the PM-100 and PM-120 which pat disliked so much he ended up using the korean PM guitar instead. So after a few years of horrible sale, Ibanez came up with the idea of creating a new PM and GB guitar that would be street price of $3500. The benson guitar clips sound ridiculously bright for my tastes and I haven't heard a single PM-200 clip that sounds good. I owned a couple PM100s and PM120s. The PM100 sounded good but fed back like crazy. The PM120 was ridiculously dark. Changed pickups and it didn't matter. It was a dark guitar but without the classic dark, thunky sound you get out of a 175. Originally Posted by Gertrude Moser
plus, I know metheny doesn't use a pickguard but it takes a lot of audacity to sell an archtop guitar for $3500 and not include a pickguard with it.Last edited by jzucker; 02-01-2014 at 03:07 PM.
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if it's made by deviser , I won't deal with them anymore. Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
Laminated Spruce Top. Laminated Maple everywhere else. Made in Japan.
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