The Mambo 10 Amp

**Philly112** · 03-29-2013, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Jazz_175

Why did you choose the wedge as opposed to the cube?

They are both the same price, and the wedge can also be used vertically as in one of my pics. So it just seemed more versatile.
I'm not sure how many people buy the cube; I'm sure Jon told me sometime that most go for the wedge.

Phil

**Jazz_175** · 03-29-2013, 01:28 PM

Do you think they produce exactly the same sound?
That might seem like a stupid question.....

**Philly112** · 03-29-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jazz_175

Do you think they produce exactly the same sound?
That might seem like a stupid question.....

What, you mean the cube and the wedge? I see no reason why not as they're essentially the same amp.

Phil

**Woody Sound** · 03-29-2013, 01:41 PM

I would think that if they sound the same, the versatility of wedge is a no-brainer.

**Philly112** · 03-29-2013, 01:48 PM

I seem to remember asking Jon why he bothered making a cube version. And his reply was something along the lines of 'some people just wanted a cube shape...'.
As his amps are made to order anyway, it's not like he's got a huge stock of cubes which won't sell.
So he'll make you a cube if you want one, but as above, I can't see why anyone would.

Phil

**Franz 1997** · 03-29-2013, 02:16 PM

I have a mambo cube ( I might be the only one who has!) and am pretty sure the sound is the same - the cube has an internal baffle which means that the internal shape is similar to the wedge. I just prefer the tradition box shape - and it's easier to carry in a case.

**Jazz_175** · 03-29-2013, 02:26 PM

But the wedge is lighter, I guess....
As for the sound, I might suspect slight differences, maybe not perceptible to the hearing, due to the fact that the same speaker has a different enclosure (or maybe this is just nonsense)

**jorgemg1984** · 03-29-2013, 02:32 PM

I always tilt my amps, specially for us jazzers that play small amps in small clubs it's very important to help dispersion. So the wedge it's much better.. never having heard a cube I suspect the differences are subliminal at best.

**coolvinny** · 03-29-2013, 10:01 PM

Actually there is one downside to the Wedge (I have a Wedge 8): it is a bit unstable in the trunk of the car. You have to position it the right way, i.e. with the speaker facing to the rear of the car, or else sometimes it will roll over itself due to the Wedge design. If you were to face the speaker towards the front of the car, it will tip over quite easily. Anyway, it's easy to deal with.

Also, the Wedge can fit into some bags that the Cube wouldn't quite fit into, due to the slightly reduced overall depth. A Cube would not fit in the tote bag I use for the Wedge.

**benjazzman82** · 03-30-2013, 06:04 AM

My 2x10 is angled quite severly now due to trying jons wedge. Makes the world of difference.

**pingu** · 03-30-2013, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I always tilt my amps, specially for us jazzers that play small amps in small clubs it's very important to help dispersion. So the wedge it's much better.. never having heard a cube I suspect the differences are subliminal at best.

When playing out I assume you guys get the Mambo Combo off the floor onto a Chair or Table etc
Does that affect the wedge/cube shape decision ?

I use a (cube shaped) AER C60 its small , under 8" speaker
but I always get it off the floor somehow ...............

the sound is too muddy down there on the deck even when tilted back 45 degrees

**jorgemg1984** · 03-30-2013, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by pingu

When playing out I assume you guys get the Mambo Combo off the floor onto a Chair or Table etc
Does that affect the wedge/cube shape decision ?

I use a (cube shaped) AER C60 its small , under 8" speaker
but I always get it off the floor somehow ...............

the sound is too muddy down there on the deck even when tilted back 45 degrees

So far no. The bass control on both the mambo or my eq pedals work really good so if I still have a boomy sound they take care of it... I always feel my sound looses a lot when put on a chair. Just a small contact with the floor (wedge or tilt) its the perfect for amount of bass / dispersion so far.

**Franz 1997** · 03-30-2013, 07:54 AM

I agree with Jorge on this; the sound loses richness on a chair IMO. The tilt back issue isn't a problem on the cube; I have fitted a tilt-back foot, but before then I just stuck a roll of gaffer tape under the front. It works perfectly. No problem with too much bass at all.

I can see that the wedge is in some ways a more practical design, but I wanted to maximise the volume of air in the cabinet, and also prefer the cube aesthetics. And, it doesn't fall over in the boot ( = trunk)

**Jazz_175** · 03-31-2013, 09:28 AM

How would the 10" speaker electric guitar mambo amp go with acoustic guitars?
From the website I see that the mambo for acoustic guitar has a speaker with concentric HF(?) horn.

**jorgemg1984** · 03-31-2013, 10:33 AM

It sounds quite nice with acoustics although not as good as a dedicated acoustic amp. But it sounds perfectly usable on a gig!

**kris** · 03-31-2013, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

It sounds quite nice with acoustics although not as good as a dedicated acoustic amp. But it sounds perfectly usable on a gig!

mambo for acoustic guitar has a speaker with concentric HF(?) horn

I think it is another speaker configuration...:-)

**jorgemg1984** · 03-31-2013, 11:41 AM

I know Kris, just replying to 175 question's that the regular Mambo can be a nice acoustic amp too - as the Henriksen. To my ears and taste of course

**kris** · 03-31-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I know Kris, just replying to 175 question's that the regular Mambo can be a nice acoustic amp too - as the Henriksen. To my ears and taste of course

sure...Thanks.
I tried AI with standard 10" cab with my nylon strings guitar...
I can say that probably AI with 10" cab with extension/like do Henriksen cabs with tweeter/ my acoustic guitar will sound much better.:-)

**jorgemg1984** · 03-31-2013, 12:35 PM

I have the Henriksen Tweety. I use it with a single mambo cab or with my big EV cab - it helps a lot giving that high end sparkle acoustics need. Still not as good as my long gone Fishman amp but pretty nice still!

Your AI doesn't have a Tweeter?

My acoustic is a steel one, I have a nylon string guitar but it's a 50€ one just for giving lessons

I would like to have a very good nylon guitar with pickups to play bossa but I don't enough work on that area that can justify buying one!

**kris** · 03-31-2013, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I have the Henriksen Tweety. I use it with a single mambo cab or with my big EV cab - it helps a lot giving that high end sparkle acoustics need. Still not as good as my long gone Fishman amp but pretty nice still!

Your AI doesn't have a Tweeter?

My acoustic is a steel one, I have a nylon string guitar but it's a 50€ one just for giving lessons

I would like to have a very good nylon guitar with pickups to play bossa but I don't enough work on that area that can justify buying one!

AI- old clarus 1-it was just head.
I've sold it and I 've got AER compact XL.

**Jazz_175** · 03-31-2013, 01:41 PM

My question about acoustic guitar with mambo amp is motivated by the following.
Today I played my steeel string acoustic with Henriksen 112 ER and AER Compact 60.
My impression was that the AER was better.
Since I don't play acoustic guitar in live gigs and I haven't used the AER with jazz guitars since I bought the Henriksen I thought I'd sell the AER.
After that my plan would be pairing the Henriksen with a mambo 10" for electric guitar (to be used with acoustic if needed).

At due time I should inquire Jon about the difference between the electric and acoustic version of mambo amp.

**kris** · 03-31-2013, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jazz_175

My question about acoustic guitar with mambo amp is motivated by the following.
Today I played my steeel string acoustic with Henriksen 112 ER and AER Compact 60.
My impression was that the AER was better.
Since I don't play acoustic guitar in live gigs and I haven't used the AER with jazz guitars since I bought the Henriksen I thought I'd sell the AER.
After that my plan would be pairing the Henriksen with a mambo 10" for electric guitar (to be used with acoustic if needed).

At due time I should inquire Jon about the difference between the electric and acoustic version of mambo amp.

That is the maybe problem with the amp and speaker configuration.
I woud like to have one amp that sounds good with electric and acoustic guitars.

**jorgemg1984** · 03-31-2013, 05:13 PM

I am personally not an AER fan at all, I find Fishman amps much better.

The Mambo sounds better than the Henriksen imo with both archtops and acoustics but with acoustics is not a night and day difference (it is with archtops to me).

I would stick with the Henriksen 112ER, it seems to do both tricks OK. If not and since you only play at home maybe a Fishman Loudbox Mini?

**Jazz_175** · 04-01-2013, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I would stick with the Henriksen 112ER, it seems to do both tricks OK. If not and since you only play at home maybe a Fishman Loudbox Mini?

Actually I do play live, but only with jazz guitars (but you never know...)

**kris** · 04-01-2013, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by jorgemg1984

I am personally not an AER fan at all, I find Fishman amps much better.

The Mambo sounds better than the Henriksen imo with both archtops and acoustics but with acoustics is not a night and day difference (it is with archtops to me).

I would stick with the Henriksen 112ER, it seems to do both tricks OK. If not and since you only play at home maybe a Fishman Loudbox Mini?

AER is great amp for recordings...you coud not find the amp without any noise...:-)