Advice for a Thinline hollow body guitar

**whosgarethparry** · 06-10-2012, 11:04 AM

Hey all,
Currently play, as one of my main guitars a Peerless Sunset. It's a single cut hollowbody, thinline (335 thickness at the rim) with a wooden bridge.

I've always been looking for an Old 60's 125, but hard to find, and not sure i wanna take the risk.

Any suggestion for a thineline Hollowbody, wooden bridge, twin p/up (prefer p90)

i've seen the heritage h525, but the metal bridge i'm not keen on, and tbh something doesnt 'feel right' about them. maybe its the picture on the website, i dunno.....
No 330 style guitars, single cut.

did a search, couldn't find all that much....
like to keep it below 3K US/can

**disco~juice** · 06-10-2012, 11:30 AM

You could try Moffa Sweet Lorraine but it's more than 3k us I think.

**whosgarethparry** · 06-10-2012, 11:37 AM

WOW, never heard of them before. Though,tbh, want more traditional looks, and hollow (it says semihollow).

**IbanezAS100** · 06-10-2012, 12:35 PM

Hey Gaz,

Have you looked into having one built to your specs? Mine is being built by Rob @http://www.rjaylwardguitars.co.uk/. If you don't mind the wait it will be in your budget and to your spec down to minute details. Rob is wonderful to work with-highly recommended.

There's also http://www.victorbakerguitars.com/index2.php#/featured/. Great looking guitars with laminates starting around $2800.

**IbanezAS100** · 06-10-2012, 12:47 PM

...or there's this in Wetherby (no place like Yorkshire, eh?)

Nicks Guitars

Scroll down for an ES125 TC, VG+, 2 P90s, £1595

**Hammertone** · 06-10-2012, 01:32 PM

How about a Hofner Thin President? I have one for sale somewhere in this thread:

https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/guita...y-guitars.html

Heck, I'd be happy to put 2x P-90s on it if you want.
And since we are both in Toronto, I'd be happy to get together for you to check it out.

**Archtop 13** · 06-10-2012, 06:26 PM

Play before you pay if you buy a production thin line. They look much better than they sound quite often & have been aged roughly.

**Jim Soloway** · 06-10-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Archtop 13

Play before you pay if you buy a production thin line. They look much better than they sound quite often & have been aged roughly.

I really don't understand this post at all. Why would a thinline hollowbody have aged any rougher than anything else?

**PTChristopher** · 06-10-2012, 07:04 PM

They use rougher sandpaper on thinlines. I read that online.

**Archtop 13** · 06-10-2012, 08:53 PM

I meant that they can be rough compared to how they look in pictures online & that thin tops can warp if not well taken care of. A solid body guitar, obviously, is a lot more resilient.

**Archtop 13** · 06-10-2012, 09:05 PM

I recently restored an Epi that hadn't been well taken care of. It had a poor neck reset, had previously been refinished, the top was warped. It was tough to tell what all had been done to it over the years. It had 2 PAFs in it & the neck n fretboard were like a bumpy road. The finish was pretty terrible & most if this would not be seen through a camera. Some of these old guitars have been through a lot.

**bborzell** · 06-10-2012, 09:05 PM

And a tree is typically more resiliant than a solid body, but they are harder to play what with the branches and all.

Thinline refers to the body depth, not the thickness of the top plate. I own two thinlines, having had one for nearly 10 years and I can't fathom the conditions that would make the top warp short of using it to paddle a raft.

The Epiphone you are referring sounds like it was used as a paddle.

**whosgarethparry** · 06-10-2012, 09:48 PM

Great replies guys..

As100 (Themis), good links man, cheers for that.

Hammertone, that Hofner looks great, PM me, i'd be intrested to take a look....

**Flint** · 06-10-2012, 10:50 PM

There's also the Taylor T5, if you're willing to look at something just like what you want only different.

**disco~juice** · 06-11-2012, 01:49 AM

Also Victor Baker and Jim Soloway but still I don't know exactly what you want..

**shoome** · 06-11-2012, 05:01 AM

You might want to take a look at the Hofner Verythin John Stowell signature model handmade in germany.
I dont think they are producing them anymore, but there should be some stores left selling one... or even on ebay.

I own one of those for nearly 2 1/2 years now, it was one of my very first jazz guitars once I started playing jazz only.. and I don't think I will ever give this baby away. It has such a nice acoustic sound for a thinline guitar and it's playability is incredible.

YouTube "John Stowell Verythin" and you'll find many vids from Jimmy Wyble (great man!) playing it in a restaurant. You will also find some vids of John himself playing it and I think it's possible to find an old vid of myself playing someday my prince... haha, don't give THAT a look, if you're looking for a good review an the guitar... ;-)

**Roosto** · 06-11-2012, 09:12 AM

Here's an Epi Byrdland currently on ebay-

Epiphone Byrdland Elitist Guitar | eBay

**whosgarethparry** · 06-11-2012, 01:45 PM

Right. Great suggestions. I'm looking for, traditional looks. Nothing wrong with new designs, but not for me. I'm reluctant to order a custom build. I wanna try it first. I'm also wary of vintage, mainly because I'm worried about it getting trashed, and also higher maintenance costs (this just personal experience in the past, I know it's not all old guitars) Small bodies I'm not keen on. 16“ is fine, but the body depth is key. Needs to be thinline...
I'll check some hofner's online, and hopefully hammertone will be showing me his President this week or next....

**Hammertone** · 06-11-2012, 03:33 PM

Heck, I'll show you several, including a Thin President, Verythin Classic, Verythin Standard and more!

**whosgarethparry** · 06-11-2012, 03:35 PM

Nice

**coolvinny** · 06-11-2012, 04:10 PM

I will have my Holst laminate hollowbody 16" x 2.25" with 24.4" scale later this month and will post a review. I'm sure the guitar will be awesome (everyone sings Steve Holst's praises), so mostly my review will discuss what I think of these specs and then you can extrapolate to similarly-spec'd models. I think the Gibson ES-137 has the same specs except is not a true hollowbody.

**JohnW400** · 06-11-2012, 04:33 PM

These are great. I have a custom shop one.

1992 Gibson ES350T Sunburst > Guitars : Archtop Electric & Acoustic - Golden Age Fretted Instruments | Gbase.com

**Groyniad** · 06-11-2012, 06:24 PM

I just got a Campellone that is 17'' and 2.25'' thick. Its all European tone woods and it has the most amazing acoustic response. Best neck I've ever laid hands on. Benedetto floating pickup - rich, lush jazz sound. The real deal about it is how comfortable it is to play. After a lifetime of 3 1/2'' deep or thereabouts (pun anyone?) its a blessed relief on the shoulders and forearms. mmmm
It will - with the right amp settings - just about produce the appropriately rich jazz tone.

**Archtop 13** · 06-11-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by bborzell

And a tree is typically more resiliant than a solid body, but they are harder to play what with the branches and all.

Thinline refers to the body depth, not the thickness of the top plate. I own two thinlines, having had one for nearly 10 years and I can't fathom the conditions that would make the top warp short of using it to paddle a raft.

The Epiphone you are referring sounds like it was used as a paddle.

You are telling this to a guy who builds archtops... I know what a tree looks like

. I've played many thin lines & I've built a few, as well. Pull a few apart & you'll begin to understand what an under appreciated guitar goes through & why you should be cautious when buying them online.