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    Quote Originally Posted by bborzell
    I tend not to count looks for much, but I don't know about that one... Sorry dude, it's fugly. I suppose it would grow on me if it was really all that.

    What's that Cherry Burst behind it? PRS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtom
    I tend not to count looks for much, but I don't know about that one... Sorry dude, it's fugly. I suppose it would grow on me if it was really all that.

    What's that Cherry Burst behind it? PRS?
    The flash didn't do the guitar any favors what with illuminating the inside of the back through the soundholes. I should probably do the guitar soundhole equivalent of red eye correction.

    The other guitar is a Cort M-Custom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bborzell
    The flash didn't do the guitar any favors what with illuminating the inside of the back through the soundholes. I should probably do the guitar soundhole equivalent of red eye correction.

    The other guitar is a Cort M-Custom.
    LOL. Right.

    The M-Custom looks nice.

    Does this make me shallow?

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    [PTChristopher ]>>> I love the guitar, but sure would like to take a crack at a re-design of the f-holes and cutaway.

    [Fusionista]>>> Wouldn't it just be like everyone else's then ? Or would you plan to make it even more individual ?-) More I look at it more I like it.

    I am sure that I would make it a more dreary guitar, so I am really just whining.

    But I would do something with the f-holes - more of a S-hole vs. the weird fat thing that spaces the knobs so oddly.

    Then the cutaway would be either Florentine or not, but get rid of the seemingly dead-flat section on the upper side out near the tip.

    I guess the Batman pickguard would go too.

    So yeah, "mine" would be less distictive and would not sound or play any better. This all comes up well short of what I'd call an "improvement".

    I looked and my Cannon digital camera has a feature called FHR, F-Hole Reduction - nice to know someone is thinking archtops at Cannon.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTChristopher
    [PTChristopher ]>>> I love the guitar, but sure would like to take a crack at a re-design of the f-holes and cutaway.

    [Fusionista]>>> Wouldn't it just be like everyone else's then ? Or would you plan to make it even more individual ?-) More I look at it more I like it.

    I am sure that I would make it a more dreary guitar, so I am really just whining.
    Gretsch has those cats eyes holes too, but theirs are more slender which make them less in the face. Despite that I don't know how much I like them either.... But I'm a grumpy old man too.

    Then the cutaway would be either Florentine or not, but get rid of the seemingly dead-flat section on the upper side out near the tip.
    +1.

    I looked and my Cannon digital camera has a feature called FHR, F-Hole Reduction - nice to know someone is thinking archtops at Cannon.
    Through a number of years I have built up a nice Nikon dSLR system. But you have made it clear that Nikon sucks in this department. Nikon can only handle normal F-shape holes, not cats eyes holes. Now that you have pointed out this fact, I will have to sell my two camera bodies and all the lenses and get Canon gear instead. There went the next three guitars. Thanks a lot Chris.

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    Point is, I think that's all already been done - you just have to find out who's done it and what the model name is :-) Personally I like Mr Triggs' cutaway, it's different, and the instrument comes together well - even the Bigsby. it's like a woman dressed up for a night out with her little black number and jewellery on - a sort of female 'Tux' No offence

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    Maybe it was the setting. Here is a garden shot with creme rings instead of black. Also toned down the "whites of their eyes" sound holes.



    Oh, by the way. Triggs cut the deal with Cort to produce this design after he had made a custom version for Steve Miller. Miller being the blues guy that he is, he probably asked for the teardrop sound holes. Oh, again, Miller's custom was blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtom
    LOL. Right.

    The M-Custom looks nice.

    Does this make me shallow?
    You mean liking Corts? No, I don't think so. Maybe a bit off of the beaten path, perhaps. The strange thing is that I didn't seek out either guitar. I found the Triggs in a shop that specializes in Bluegrass. I knew of Triggs from his mandolin builds so I took it off the wall and played it for 20 minutes and then took it home.

    I bought the M-Custom several years later because I wanted a hybrid (what ever that means) in order to get a wide tonal range. I didn't want to pay $3.5K for a PRS Hollowbody II and the Taylor T-5 felt and sounded pretty good but I was not "moved" by it so I rolled the dice and spent 1/6th of the PRS price and 1/4 of the Taylor price on the Cort. Turns out to be the best $600 I have ever spent on a guitar.

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    I'd suggest maybe an Eastman T146 or T385, or one of the T186, 185 or 184 models. These guitars beautifully made and one of the best values on the market in archtops. I've got the T184, which is about the size and shape of the Gibson 339, but hand carved with Seymore Duncan pickups, and the partial tone block only extends as far as the bridge which gives a exceptionally nice hollow jazz sound for such a small bodied guitar. Very comfotable to play also. The only problem with Eastmans is that depending on where you live you may have difficulty finding a store that has them in stock for you to play before you buy.

    The website is here: Thinline Electric Guitars

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    Hello!
    I think somewhere in the near future it would be time to change my Sheraton for something a bit higher class (budget will be between 1000 to 1500 euro and if I really feel like that's the one the maximum would be 2000). I was thinking of getting a fully hollow this time, but I would like it to be with a thin body. What would you recommend? I play a lot of jazz, and I am leaning towards more electric sound. Much of the time I use a lot of effects and sometimes slightly distorted sound. The reason I want a fully hollow is more practical. I need a lighter guitar.
    For now I am just exploring and I would be happy to hear your suggestions.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLambov
    Hello!
    I think somewhere in the near future it would be time to change my Sheraton for something a bit higher class (budget will be between 1000 to 1500 euro and if I really feel like that's the one the maximum would be 2000). I was thinking of getting a fully hollow this time, but I would like it to be with a thin body. What would you recommend? I play a lot of jazz, and I am leaning towards more electric sound. Much of the time I use a lot of effects and sometimes slightly distorted sound. The reason I want a fully hollow is more practical. I need a lighter guitar.
    For now I am just exploring and I would be happy to hear your suggestions.

    Thanks!
    The Epiphone Elitist Casino is a great guitar. In the US you wouldn’t have a hard time finding a used one in that price range. I don’t know the European market.

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    Thomann had Gibson ES-Les Pauls for sale below 1500€ recently but I don't know if they have any left. Those are semis, but very light as they are small and the block is minimal

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    Guild Starfire III or if you like P-90s then you might try to find Gibson 330.

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    Hi -- welcome to the Forum!

    So, your order is: high class + 1500 EU + hollow + thin + electric jazz + distortion + practical + lightweight? That's quite an order, and I don't really know one guitar that fits all that. A hollow tele will hit several of those, though.

    Enjoy the hunt!

    Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    Hi -- welcome to the Forum!

    So, your order is: high class + 1500 EU + hollow + thin + electric jazz + distortion + practical + lightweight? That's quite an order, and I don't really know one guitar that fits all that. A hollow tele will hit several of those, though.

    Enjoy the hunt!

    Marc
    As long as one is happy with P90s, I think a Casino would tick all of those boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    Hi -- welcome to the Forum!

    So, your order is: high class + 1500 EU + hollow + thin + electric jazz + distortion + practical + lightweight? That's quite an order, and I don't really know one guitar that fits all that. A hollow tele will hit several of those, though.

    Enjoy the hunt!

    Marc
    I don't think it's such a tall order. 1500 to 2000 EU budget for a fully hollow thin-line guitar. Musical genre is irrelevant unless he or she is going to play in very loud bands.

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    Not positive but I thought Eastman makes/made a hollow 335 style, if not, maybe an El Ray?

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    a higher end casino would be my first pick. id also take a look around for an older mia guild, but the new ones seem alright. you being in Europe, I might think a hofner or two might be with a peek. eastman and heritage have a few offerings to consider, too. or if you really want to be sassy and classy, a used gretsch.

    I do think the big thing is to decide on the kind of pickups you want. humbuckers, p90s, minis, filtertrons, etc. or just find a good guitar and mod it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwhy
    Hi -- welcome to the Forum!

    So, your order is: high class + 1500 EU + hollow + thin + electric jazz + distortion + practical + lightweight? That's quite an order, and I don't really know one guitar that fits all that. A hollow tele will hit several of those, though.

    Enjoy the hunt!

    Marc
    I agree with a poster above that a ES Les Paul would fit the bill, don't know what the Gibsons go for used, but Epi makes their own version, much more affordable.

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    Eastman offers several different fully hollow thinline guitars!

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    I found my holy grail with a Gibson ES-390 a few months back. Same basic features as a Casino Coupe, but 3-4 times the cost. Worth it though. They are fully hollow. A Les Paul with an f-hole would be semi-hollow from what I know. Not comparable to a fully hollow IMHO.
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    The Eastman T146 is a great guitar. I have a T145, (no longer offered, 15" body instead of the 16" on the T146) for sale. It's a great guitar, but I don't play it much, preferring my Benedetto. Benedetto has several fully hollow thinline models, but they're not cheap, usually over $2000 used. The Eastmans go for much less, but are still excellent guitars.

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    Get a 50's Gibson ES125T. The 60's ones have slim necks and ugly bursts, but the 50s ones are awesome. I got to spend a weekend with one and it was awesome. That 50's p90 is one hell of a pickup.

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    Isn't amazing that a guitar can hold up so well that almost 70 years later they are highly desirable? Even instruments from the 30's! that's pretty crazy if you think about it.