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I have just received word from a major on-line seller that the new Godin 5th Avenue Jazz will be available in April and will have a rough cost of $1,900. In my view that is absurd. The only difference between this instrument and the 5th Avenue Kingpin II is that the Jazz has one less pickup and a curly maple top with a highly polished finish. You can purchase the Kingpin II from many dealers for less than a grand. What can Godin be thinking?
David Pugh
Bryan, TX
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02-16-2011 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by David Pugh
Archtops are in demand?
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Well they're definitely not in demand in Australia. There have been some good bargains on ebay here for months. Brand new IBZ AF75s are probably $200 cheaper than 2 years ago. Originally Posted by ejwhite09
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Just go for the cheaper cutaway model, unless you'd rather add a pickup to the acoustic (non-cutaway) model.
If the price difference is crazy, people won't buy it and it will go down, perhaps.
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Has to be more difference than that.... is it a solid top instead of laminated?
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You can hear and see it all over Godin's NAMM video at their website. But no mention of whether its a laminate or solid top. As Godin is usually quite picky about telling you the construction, it probably measn it is laminate like the rest ofthe 5th Ave line.
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It is the same wood as the cheaper Kingpins, except that the top ply is curly maple.
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When I see one hanging on the wall in the store I will decide if it is worth it to me.
I am not blown away by them so far. I picked up a 64 ES125 last week for about 400$ more than a new 5th Ave.
When i talked to Godin at MGS last July I told them there was a lot of interest in a one pickup cutaway. The guy seemed to listen. He also told me he heard the same thing from Tony Benett's guitarist. Maybe that is the market they are aiming for ? Their version of an ES175 at half the price?
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Here's the description I found.....
GODIN "5TH AVENUE JAZZ" ARCHTOP ACOUSTIC GUITAR & CASE
Cutaway body design, wild cherry top, back and sides (flame maple with wild cherry core), flame maple neck with ebony fingerboard, adjustable GraphTech Tusq bridge, custom polished high-gloss finish, floating pickguard and contoured high-gloss headstock, one Godin mini-humbucker pickup, one volume and one tone control, 24.84" scale length, 1.72" nut width, natural flame finish, TRIC case included.
cherry top could be solid since they point out sides and back are lam, flame maple lam back, sides, and neck. Ebony fretboard. So sound better than a low end archtop. Have to wait till someone trys one to get a playability and sound report.
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I'd say wait until it's actually there on the shelf with a tag on it. I recently went to an internationally-known store where one owner tried to tell me a particular new, Epi guitar was 20% more than I could find it anywhere else. He was either very mistaken or tried to take advantage, thinking I didn't know my stuff.
I've been hearing of a street price around $1,500 US for the Godin Jazz. That's still steep, considering it's not much more of a guitar than a $500 5th Ave with a floating pickup.
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[SamBooka] >>> [Godin jazz is] Their version of an ES175 at half the price?
That is a great perspective.
If $1500 to $1,900 is the actual street price for the Godin, then that strikes me as high by many hundreds when you consider what you can get for ~1,000 these days. (To say nothing of the very gig-worthy guitars well below $1,000.)
So yeah, the Godin seems a bit high. And where does that leave a 175?
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The Kingpin II cw is only $995, although some advertise it for $1150 now.
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I take that to mean it is all laminate construction, wild cherry with a maple veneer as the top ply. Originally Posted by docbop
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Those originial 5th Avenue's really took off for Godin, they hit the market perfectly. I tried to get one for a while, and its an amazing guitar. But seeing as I got mine for about 500 with case. I couldn't see paying 1900, unless there's been a huge change in materials, atleast bind the fretboard.
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Flame maple neck definitely adds to the price, as does an ebony fretboard.
The maple veneer is gonna cost more than cherry, too.
Still, $1900 seems a bit high. $1500 is what I was thinking, but who am I?
EG
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I don't know but you need to get on the board at Godin Originally Posted by Elias Graves
Flame maple neck definitely adds to the price, as does an ebony fretboard.
The maple veneer is gonna cost more than cherry, too.
Still, $1900 seems a bit high. $1500 is what I was thinking, but who am I?
EG
Of course this 1900 could be the MSRP. You know Les Pauls are MSRP at like 3500 but you'd never find one listed at that.
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MSRP was exactly what I was thinking.
~DB
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Gasp! could Godin have finally figured out that a high quality, north american made guitar might be worth...money?
Think about what gibson sells a 335 and a 175 for. The Godin's a bargain.
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Did you read the Jazz Times article here:
Jazz Instruments: Godin 5th Avenue Guitar ? By Evan Haga ? Jazz Articles
They're laminate.
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Does anyone have more specs? If they're aiming for a "top of the line" 5th Avenue, I wonder if they'll do more binding (f-holes, fretboard, headstock) and maybe some fancier fretboard inlay. Is the pickup routed or floating?
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From one on line seller
MSRP $2245
Their price $1895
The "Jazz" is laminated... top backs and sides.
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The new fancy one's laminate too, but that article's from 2008. Originally Posted by caravan
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Even at that price, it will probably still be competitive in its price range. Godin is pretty good at what they do, and they do it in North America, which is saying a lot these days. I wish them the best of luck, though I will be staying with the humble P90 version.
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Hey guys, here's a picture. Do you still think it's worth the asking price?
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I think they originally got the market right with the P90, they missed a trick with this though, should've stayed with the P90. I would buy one with a single P90!
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