Neodymium guitar amp speakers

[jorgemg1984]

Yes, I could remove it with my parametric but not with the Henriksen's eq.

[Jazz_175]

Is that the Fromel EQ or another one?

[jorgemg1984]

A custom parametric... made by a friend. Based on the BYOC one with some mods.

The bass control of the Fromel will take care of it though (the 150hz spike, which is the most relevant).

[Woody Sound]

Here's the Carvin page: Carvin.com - Guitars, Amplifiers & Pro Audio: Sales & Specials

They're listing a sale!

Their spec list doesn't include their speakers' sensitivities. Kinda important.

[jads57]

I've been using a Jensen Tornado 12" 8ohm in a Egnater small closed 1x12" cab as an extension speaker along w/ my Quilter Aviator 1x12" combo w Celestion Lead 80. I haven't gigged w/ just the Tornado yet, but it sure makes for a nice light weight ext.cab. And w/ both speakers it sounds great! I'm thinking of trying a Warehouse Guitar Speaker ET90 in the Quilter to replace the Celestion Lead 80. I already have a WGS ET90 in my Mesa/Boogie Nomad 55 1x12" combo and love it! But the downside is it weighs as much as the Celestion, bummer

[jzucker]

i'm thinking of trying a deltalite II in mine.

[Cobra]

Where are you going to put it?

I'm putting it in a Dr. Z Z28 1x12 combo that I run clean.

[Tom Karol]

i'm thinking of trying a deltalite II in mine.

I'm curious about the Deltalite II as well.

[Cobra]

as far as I can see on the site, it's 4 ohm only. And i'm pretty sure that's just a re-labeled eminence EPS-12C

http://www.eminence.com/2013/01/emin...atriot-series/

4ohm only which is what the telonics site says too

The Telonics speaker isn't a re-labeled EPS-12C, it's a tweaked version built by Eminence to Telonics specs.

Check out this thread where they release the 12" 8ohm Telonics:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=253194




Her's some pix of the EPS-12C:

[Tom Karol]

Hmm ... !

[Jazz_175]

is he gigging with it though? The issue with many of the emi and jensen speakers is that the cone cannot handle gig level clean volumes. They're designed to break up for overdriven tones...

Is that because the speaker does not have enough wattage ?
The Eminence Beta 12 A that is stock has in fact a power rating of 250 W and is not heavy

Net Weight	7.5 lbs, 3.4 kg
Shipping Weight	9.7 lbs, 4.4 kgs

It seems that the price you have to pay if you want a guitar speaker with enough wattage is to increase the weight.
I looked at some Eminence guitar speakers

The Tonker 150 Watts

Net Weight	11.1 lbs, 5.03 kg
Shipping Weight	13.2 lbs, 5.99 kgs

The Commonwealth 225 Watts

Net Weight	21.5 lbs, 9.75 kg
Shipping Weight	23.2 lbs, 10.52 kgs

Legend EM12 200 Watt

Net Weight	16.3 lbs, 7.39 kg
Shipping Weight	18 lbs, 8.16 kgs

[jzucker]

how is it different? Looks like the same cone and motor.

The Telonics speaker isn't a re-labeled EPS-12C, it's a tweaked version built by Eminence to Telonics specs.

Check out this thread where they release the 12" 8ohm Telonics:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=253194




Her's some pix of the EPS-12C:

[jzucker]

Is that because the speaker does not have enough wattage ?

No, many of the classic '60s style speakers were very inexpensive with thin paper cones. They were designed to be used in multi-speaker cabinets. Later, they improved the design of the voice coil and heat dissipation characteristics so that increased the power rating but it still doesn't change the cheap paper design. When you push those speakers the cone actually distorts. This may sound good for certain classic rock applications (neil young??) but probably not for Pat Martino

[Jazz_175]

Telonics TSNEO 12-8
"It is designed as a modern replacement for the great classic JBL K120-8 speaker.
In broad terms, it handles twice the power while weighing only half as much and produces “that” great sound. "

Excuse my ignorance but what is that great sound?
Where can you find that JBL K120-8 speaker?

[jads57]

How about this Eminence 12" http://www.eminence.com/speakers/spe...ltaliteII_2512

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

How about this Eminence 12" http://www.eminence.com/speakers/spe...?model=EPS_12C

Them specs look good! Lightweight magnet, flat response up to almost 5KHz, 225W, low resonance, efficient - 100dB. What's not to like? I just needs a catchier name.

[jads57]

Sorry I realized it was a 4 ohm speaker! Maybe they offer it in a 8ohm version now!
Here's another Eminencehttp://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=DeltaliteII_2512

[Cobra]

how is it different? Looks like the same cone and motor.

The dust cap is different, which is plainly clear in the pix.
Maybe you need new glasses, & a new Rx for your meds?

If you want to pick nits, call Telonics and ask them how their speakers are different from the Eminence.
Report back your findings immediately if not sooner, so as to not damage your reputation as an internet know-it-all, that's never wrong.
You pulled the same kind of crap over on TGP for years, now we are graced with it here.
I'm sure everyone is thrilled!!!

[jzucker]

Telonics TSNEO 12-8
"It is designed as a modern replacement for the great classic JBL K120-8 speaker.
In broad terms, it handles twice the power while weighing only half as much and produces “that” great sound. "

Excuse my ignorance but what is that great sound?
Where can you find that JBL K120-8 speaker?

funny, that's exactly what the Eminence EPS-12 speaker is supposed to do. I have a feeling it's just the same speaker with a different label. Is it actually available in 8 ohm? That was the claim here but the telsonics website says 4 ohm only.

Also, i'd take those claims with a grain of salt. Eminence has a new EV clone speaker, the EM12 and the clips I've heard sound *NOTHING* like an ev...Just sayin'...

[jzucker]

The dust cap is different, which is plainly clear in the pix.
Maybe you need new glasses, & a new Rx for your meds?

Swapping out a dust cover does not constitute a significant design change IMO...

I'll be happy if it's really something different from the eminence but as you can see from this link, they don't list an 8ohm version which leads me to suspect that it's just a re-labeled eminence.

What changes did they supposedly make?

http://www.tpa-az.com/page3.htm

[Spook410]

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I am but a humble participant in this forum and yes, I know, I should shut up and leave such things to our mod's. But really.. that was over the top. I think it's generally expected by both the cognoscenti and noobs, that everyone to be civil around here. Terse is one thing.. getting in someone's face because of some history you may have with them is another. Can we just talk about speakers without the personal attacks?

[Cobra]

So now you've turned this thread into your own personal spazz fest.
Puffery at it's finest.



Some things never change...
Say hello to my ignore list.
Congratulations!!!
You've earned it, again.

[Spook410]

Odd.. I thought ignoring someone could be done silently without foot stomping or tantrums. Feel free to add me to that ignore list too there chief.. and please find another outlet when you feel compelled to act out.
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Now then.. I've been looking for something lighter and cheaper than an EV to put in a Rivera Fender Concert for a higher fidelity, clean sound. Not seeing it in this thread yet. Maybe it doesn't exist?

[jzucker]

Now then.. I've been looking for something lighter and cheaper than an EV to put in a Rivera Fender Concert for a higher fidelity, clean sound. Not seeing it in this thread yet. Maybe it doesn't exist?

deltalite II ?

[Tom Karol]

Deltalite II?

Has anyone tried one of these?
How does it compare to the Beta 12A?
Thanks!