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    My Guyatone GA-1100D Reverb Custom with Pyle speakers and modified to AB763 is the best Twin I’ve ever heard. Also just as heavy. Yup, it has a Fender badge…..


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  3. #27

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    thanks everyone for the precise info!

  4. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden
    Quote Originally Posted by ET Music

    I love how the first pic has all the knobs dimed, and the second pic has all the knobs at "1" !

    Does anyone actually use their Twins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Ross
    Does anyone actually use their Twins?
    Almost exclusively, why not?

  6. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagelove
    The one that says "super reverb" on it.
    I have to agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon
    Almost exclusively, why not?
    ummmmm -

    Twin reverb, which one?-twin_vs_blu_size_800-jpeg

    I love my Twin, but oh you kid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
    ummmmm -

    Twin reverb, which one?-twin_vs_blu_size_800-jpeg

    I love my Twin, but oh you kid!

    um no, you kid
    I just gotta chuckle at the small. smaller, smallest, light, lighter, lightest crowd
    eat yer Wheaties



  9. #33

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    You being located in Italy, limits your choices on amps, and also increases the prices that you will pay. Have you considered a Deluxe Reverb? Its a 1x12 in a smaller format that still has great clean tone. Tobias Hoffman plays one, a late 1970s Deluxe Reverb on his channel and always sounds great.

    The re-issue 65 Deluxe Reverb is a good amp and is very available at good prices. Silverface Deluxe Reverbs can still be found under $1500 here in the US anyway.


  10. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Ross
    Does anyone actually use their Twins?
    I do, all three of them. Which one depends on the situation. Hand truck for moving.

    - Black reissue, very bold, very clean and clear, good for outdoors and horn bands
    - Black reissue, two power tubes removed, 12AU7 (low gain) in V2 and reverb driver V3, good for cozy venues indoors with trio (it's like an eighty pound deluxe with perfect ambient reverb )
    - Bonde 40th anniversary (stock GE factory tubes and Eminence speakers), general purpose wonderful

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    These are the options available in europe.
    I have actually a friend in California, he could pack it and send it to me, but with shipping costs I suspect the price won't be that different.
    It was interesting the tobias hoffmann thing

    Just a moment...

  12. #36

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    The BF twin is an awesome amp, i tried it a couple of time, personally i prefer amps with smooth highs.
    Since you are from Italy, a good option could be the Brunetti Singleman, is an awesome amp at very good price. You can also talk direclty with to have a custom model taylored for you. There is also Mantovani who is probably one of the best amp tech around there (not cheap but he can build an hand wired amp for you).

    P.S. I am also from Italy

  13. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
    ...The Twin's second speaker adds some dispersion in a live setting. But for the use you describe, you're only going to be mic'ing one speaker anyway even if you get a Twin. ...
    I agree with this. I feel one of the main reasons for bothering with a twin is that the 2x12 speakers add so much to how the amp feels in the room.
    If your main use case is to mic it for recording a Deluxe Reverb might be just as good.


    These are the options available in europe.
    I live in Stockholm and I somewhat frequently see use silverface twins in the 1000eur range. According to my understanding the situation is similar in many other regions?

    Blackface are more legendary but Silfaceface are really good too (I have one). Someone that knows how to work on amps can somewhat easiliy mod the circuit to be more like the blackface circuit (I did it on mine).

    but I came to the conclusion that it's better something definitive.
    I feel the Reissue 65 is a quite a solid choice. I'd guess it will probably last for 20 years and more likely longer. They can be maintained but it is easier to maintain a Silverface Twin.
    You can get a used Silverface twin and take it to a good tech every 10 years and it can last for 100 more years (they are already 50+ years old). (sure speakers are sensitive to humidity and climate)

    Original blackface twins are much more rare on the used market and they are much more expensive and they are now viewed more like historical relics that need to be protected. Amp techs can be more hesitant to do preemptive maintenance (like only replacing failed caps, rather than replacing all caps likely to fail soon) and can lean towards preserving their original state.
    But if I was in the market for a twin and would come across one for a reasonable asking price, I would probably buy it if my finances allowed.

    Fender twin ii (riviera era)
    This is a different beast.

    They are great amps and you might like it and prefer it, but it is different from the iconic Twin Reverb.

  14. #38

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    The prices for Twins here in Europe are a bit higher than in US. But I guess it is some kinda compensation that Thomastiks are cheaper for us!

    There is some 65 Reissues for sale in Italy for about 1000€.

    FENDER TWIN - pag. 2 - Mercatino Musicale

    Good luck!

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    Twin reverb, which one?-1960-5g12a-jpg

    The best straight up Jazz amp that I own is a 1960 5G12 Fender Concert amp. Its 4x10 and has 1971 CTS alnicos in it. Plug in to it and its incredibly warm and detailed full of life. Its "instant Wes" tone. I picked it up about 6 months ago from a GC for a ridiculously low price. They probably had it marked low based on how it looks, but the sound is amazing...and I kind of like the way that it looks. This amp has a lot of stories to tell.

    So for Jazz....to be honest, a brownface Fender Concrert Amp (and probably most brownfaces) beats a Twin Reverb but the Twin Reverb is a much more flexible and versatile amp. The early 60s Brownface circuits have really nice warm, low mids which translate well for jazz.

    I agree that nothing beats a 2x12 for dispersion of sound and depth of tone. For my main practice rig at home, everything goes through the 2x12s from my 66 Twin Reverb no matter what amp or head it is. I play at low volumes. The Powerstation is used to match impedence but most are OK with a 4 ohm load. Right now Im hooked in to a JTM45 reissue then Powerstation then 66 Twin cabinet. The JTM45 has nice warm cleans. Not as pristine as Fender cleans but nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ET Music
    Twin reverb, which one?-1960-5g12a-jpg

    The best straight up Jazz amp that I own is a 1960 5G12 Fender Concert amp. Its 4x10 and has 1971 CTS alnicos in it. Plug in to it and its incredibly warm and detailed full of life. Its "instant Wes" tone. I picked it up about 6 months ago from a GC for a ridiculously low price. They probably had it marked low based on how it looks, but the sound is amazing...and I kind of like the way that it looks. This amp has a lot of stories to tell.

    So for Jazz....to be honest, a brownface Fender Concrert Amp (and probably most brownfaces) beats a Twin Reverb but the Twin Reverb is a much more flexible and versatile amp. The early 60s Brownface circuits have really nice warm, low mids which translate well for jazz.

    I agree that nothing beats a 2x12 for dispersion of sound and depth of tone. For my main practice rig at home, everything goes through the 2x12s from my 66 Twin Reverb no matter what amp or head it is. I play at low volumes. The Powerstation is used to match impedence but most are OK with a 4 ohm load. Right now Im hooked in to a JTM45 reissue then Powerstation then 66 Twin cabinet. The JTM45 has nice warm cleans. Not as pristine as Fender cleans but nice.
    my only amp regret is not buying my buddy's '60 Concert about 5 years ago when he offered it to me for a grand. it was all straight and in nice condition

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    I wasnt going to confess this but, I had a '68 twin I got new in '68. A few years later ('74) I got a 175 and that was my "rig" till a few years ago. Im older and lazy so very few gigs and couldnt lift the twin into the car anymore without back trouble. Went to my local music store and traded it for '65 deluxe reish. It is nothing like my twin. The the twin had magic at low volumes and could fill stadiums on 12 without losing tonality. Im playing in a fairly spacious studio most of the time now (or on the couch) I dont like the deluxe but I do like the jensen 12 so I use it as an extension speaker for my quilter or roland. In fairness some top players have specifically requested it so Im glad I held on to it, when they play through it it sounds great. Hope that helps...

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    Side note: I wanted a twin. Just for the living room. But while looking into it found that the nearest tech to get it serviced was 4 hours away so I gave up on the idea.

  19. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spook410
    Side note: I wanted a twin. Just for the living room. But while looking into it found that the nearest tech to get it serviced was 4 hours away so I gave up on the idea.
    If your tech is 4 hours away, wouldn't you have the same problem with any amp or is it about the logistics of getting a heavy combo there?

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    I again want to say although a Twin Reverb has been a great choice for most people since the 1960’s. And sure some are better than others.
    But Why do you want technology from the 1950’s when today’s technology offers much better solutions for your query?
    My Quilters not only sound as good,but offer way more flexibility at a lower price.

    Tubes are dependent on wall voltage,the Quilter is not. The direct out is amazing on my Quilter, The TM Twin might be as well.
    The weight is 1/4 of the tube amp,easy on your back. The Quilter can run any speaker load ohms, the tube Twin can’t.
    No need for buying and replacing expensive tubes,etc.
    I can ise any guitar electric,acoustic piezo,synthesizer without any issues.

    I say all this being a gigging guitarist since 1976, and having owned some of the best tube amps including Dumble OD Special. I’ve been gigging Quilter for Ten Years now. And I’ve never found a better more consistent tone in all situations from live,studio,small rooms, large rooms, Jazz,Blues,Rock,Country gigs.
    Just try one of the higher power Quilters and then choose.

    Best of luck in your tone search!

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    Easy. The sound. Those 30’s, 40’s, 50’s tubes rule in the audio world. And they bring a mint as NOS tubes today.

    And frankly, it appears that everyone can’t hear the difference. This is true because so many, like myself, own expensive turntables because nothing produces the sound that records produce.

    But since we live in the iPhone, Spotify, digitally dominant era, so many can’t hear the difference. And personally, I feel sorry for them.

  22. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    ...
    But Why do you want technology from the 1950’s when today’s technology offers much better solutions for your query?
    ...
    Because we don't have to pick only one and stick with it.

    We can have both and even more.

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    Personally at the risk of alienating almost everyone. I don’t think blind folded anyone here can hear,let alone the feel the difference between a good tube amp handwired vs printed circuit board version. Or even a high power Quilter Aviator gen 1 or 2.

    Im saying this as a someone who actually owned and gigged more gear than most people could ever imagine. Playing these tools for a living vs reading about them makes a huge difference.
    And while some vintage gear can be quite good. There’s no comparison to what’s available nowadays. I don’t care if it’s 59 Les Paul. Dumble amp, Klon pedal etc.
    The consistency in newer gear is way better! And remember Michael Bloomfield to Pat Martino etc used what was available to them.

    Let’s be real about the gear and not Disneyfi gear to be popular or cool. There’s a lot of bad old gear that’s only worth $$$ due to its collectors value.

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    I've PM'd with the original poster and am now stepping out of this discussion as its making a wrong turn, and becoming filled with people interjecting their opinions as if they were facts. Take care everyone.

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    Sorry but you obviously haven’t really gigged new amp offerings. And if so, and youtruly believe your Twin is superior? Lol! I’ll happily admit my Dumble, Mesa Boogies (10 different ones) Marshall’s,Ampegs,Fenders, all had serious limitations,weight and tube problems.

    If you are a serious gigging musician, there is no reason to not update your amp choice. Especially with all of the current benefits. Either that or you enjoy hauling gear and wasting money on tubes,biasing,etc.
    Tubes amps have become obsolete no matter which one you choose. And it’s really about bragging rights and B.S! Sorry to be harsh, but it’s like saying I prefer a 1964 Chevy to a modern Toyota.
    Sure it works, but what a pain in the ass and why?

    Remember unless it’s your name on the Marquee out front, the audience can’t hear the difference,and you are working harder for the same low pay we all are.

    Just calling out the nonsense guitarists espouse in these threads. And at 68 I finally have earned the right to tell people to get the hell off the lawn,Lol!

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    I tried to turn off notifications of this thread, but I keep getting email notifications. So Im back for one last word: I had hopes that this forum had more dignity than The Gear Page, or TDPRI and threads did not spin off in to people forcing their opinions down other's throats by making ridiculous assumptions about other people who they do not know, experiences. Why do these people (one in particular) feel the need to do this? Is it a superiority complex? My guess (assumption) is that that particular person has that issue in real life as well: Forcing his opinion down the throats of others in his life, who no only do not need it, they do not want to hear it.

    There is no 'position' to be defended here. The OP simply asked a question about what Twin Reverb that he should consider. He is set on getting a Twin Reverb and that is his choice.

    OK this time I really am "out" and hopefully the setting to opt out will hold true this time.