My first real valve experience

[AllanAllen]

Since the thread has derailed a bit. I'm playing a street fest in a few weeks and the house amp is a reissue '59 410 Bassman. I'm very excited to try it out.

[DawgBone]

Since the thread has derailed a bit. I'm playing a street fest in a few weeks and the house amp is a reissue '59 410 Bassman. I'm very excited to try it out.

That's what the 2nd guitarist in my group uses for loud gigs since I have a Twin. It is a really good sounding amp. I don't think youll.be disappointed. Very fat and rich tone complements the clarity and brightness of the Twin. Please report back with your experiences.

[SierraTango]

Diversity is a beautiful thing-most of the time. I live in "Eastern Commiefornia" (last time I looked that's where the Sierra Nevada's are located). Pretty much agree with SS, the Eastern part of the state is more real and raw than the West. We took the camper over to Moss Landing a couple weeks ago and traffic is pretty much at metropolis levels in Santa Cruz, Monterey, etc. However the trade off is worth it, lots of live music of all types, tons of venues. Was happy to get back to my no stop light little town-but not so happy for the triple digit temperatures we've had for weeks.

I've known Pat Quilter since the 70's in Costa Mesa. He is very aware of what a Fender tube amp sounds like. I have been gigging with a Cub for the last few months and am generally happy with it. Truth be told, it's really more of a stage monitor for me as it's lined out to the FOH. When I was 20 I too, had a Twin with JBL's and played loud. It's just not needed for for the music I'm happy performing now.

SS and the Bone are Harley tribe members-they are popular bikes that do absolutely nothing for me. I grew up riding the Canyons of my Native state. Flatland, well, yeah get a Harley. I wear "All the Gear, All the Time", and was sure glad of that philosophy when I hit a Cow in the High Country a while back.

[nevershouldhavesoldit]

Since the thread has derailed a bit. I'm playing a street fest in a few weeks and the house amp is a reissue '59 410 Bassman. I'm very excited to try it out.

There have been at least two reissues of the '59 BM, and they're not equal. IIRC, the currently available one dates to 2004 and is called the LTD. It has a pine cabinet, tube rectifier, bias pot, and reissue Jensen P10Rs. The "original reissue" (oxymoron!!) was in a plywood cabinet, had a SS rectifier, and used Eminence speakers. They don't sound alike.

The first reissue 5F6 was audibly brighter and tighter than the LTD, probably because of the rectifier. I don't remember the exact speaker model, but they sounded a bit stiffer than the current ones (which seem a bit tubby in the bottom to me). I've played through a few of each over the years and thought they were all competent but not outstanding. I like the LTD more than the first reissues for quiet solo playing, because it's smoother with slightly better note definition. And I'm told that the P10Rs will break in nicely to be more mellow.

But note definition in chord melody is not quite as clean and clear in any 4x10 tweed Bassman as I like, and I'd prefer the earlier RI to the LTD for use at even moderate volumes on most gigs. I've never owned either, so I couldn't experiment. But it's possible that just putting a SS recifier in the socket of an LTD would bring it closer to the earlier version. I think the transformers in the RIs are somewhat less robust than the originals, based on plate count alone. The early tweed BM PTs had about twice as many plates as the Twin PT from the same era, and the LTD's PT looks about the same as a Twin's.

I'd much rather have my Princeton, Twin, or any of my modern amps on a gig than any version of a '59 Bassman. We look forward to hearing what you thought of it.

[DawgBone]

Diversity is a beautiful thing-most of the time. I live in "Eastern Commiefornia" (last time I looked that's where the Sierra Nevada's are located). Pretty much agree with SS, the Eastern part of the state is more real and raw than the West. We took the camper over to Moss Landing a couple weeks ago and traffic is pretty much at metropolis levels in Santa Cruz, Monterey, etc. However the trade off is worth it, lots of live music of all types, tons of venues. Was happy to get back to my no stop light little town-but not so happy for the triple digit temperatures we've had for weeks.

I've known Pat Quilter since the 70's in Costa Mesa. He is very aware of what a Fender tube amp sounds like. I have been gigging with a Cub for the last few months and am generally happy with it. Truth be told, it's really more of a stage monitor for me as it's lined out to the FOH. When I was 20 I too, had a Twin with JBL's and played loud. It's just not needed for for the music I'm happy performing now.

SS and the Bone are Harley tribe members-they are popular bikes that do absolutely nothing for me. I grew up riding the Canyons of my Native state. Flatland, well, yeah get a Harley. I wear "All the Gear, All the Time", and was sure glad of that philosophy when I hit a Cow in the High Country a while back.

I have zero allegiance to HD but I do an awful lot of corporate events for the dealerships here . My only allegiance is to the dollars they pay. As I said, someone gave me the bike and all the bikers i know ride hd so thats what i get paid to work on.

I am pretty much a fan of motorcycles in general but I do hate the recent bagger craze and I pretty much hate everything that says Honda on it because per my repair and mod experiences they are wired completely backwards. Believe me I have some serious complaints about the layout choices of HD as well, like having to remove the back exhaust pipe on an evo to get the axle out, for example, among a bunch of other stuff that strikes me as retarded.

As for pat Quilter, he needs his ears checked if he thinks a 101 sounds like a bf fender.

[enalnitram]

....when I have a Princeton or Pro junior that can do a happy gig...

Hear ye! And amen! I have a tweed USA pro junior I purchased new in 1995. I WILL NEVER SELL IT.