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    Quote Originally Posted by brent.h
    When I wrote my comment earlier in this thread, I excluded the following text (and kept it somewhere temporarily).

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    Zooming out, knowing how difficult it can be to play jazz guitar, sometimes I wonder about these things:

    How do I navigate this music?
    How much do I improvise?
    Improvise with the melody?
    Improvise with the bop idiom?
    How much rhythms to add?
    When do I play?
    How do I play?
    What do I play?

    These 'philosophical' questions could help you decide which techniques to develop or not develop, and how much speed you need or not need.

    Here are the changes I noticed in my favourite musicians on fast tunes:

    Early in his 1920s career, Louis Armstrong played virtuosically. Not shreddy like a rocker or a bebopper, note-y enough. By the 1930s and in the big band era, he changed his playing quite significantly. He stopped playing too many notes and would play only a few that would soar and float above everything (using a tonne of half note triplets, hemiolas, and quarter note triplets).

    On the other hand, Frankie Trumbauer played with so many bends in the 1920s you'd think he was a guitar player. By the 1930s, he played fewer bends but even more notes and even faster – practically shredding triads up and down!

    Pre-WW2 Prez didn't rely on too many licks, and he was really focused on asymmetry of rhythms. Post-WW2 Prez relied heavily on linear licks (do-re-mi-fa-sol style), the mordent ornaments, and honking one-note rhythms.

    I'm guessing that these guys had a change in a musical philosophy, and therefore a change in their playing, technique, and ultimately speed. Perhaps check out some of your favourite players and see how they changed? That could be an inspiration to what kind of technique/chops you need and how much.
    Regarding Armstrong, it may have had something to do with his technique that led to the change in style. Something to do with his embouchure which wasn't quite the correct way?

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  3. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by James W
    Regarding Armstrong, it may have had something to do with his technique that led to the change in style. Something to do with his embouchure which wasn't quite the correct way?
    ok oops i didn't know that

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    How do I navigate this music?
    If I understand the question (which I might not), I hold the tune in my mind as "how it goes" meaning only how it sounds. However this thing I hold is not a linear "step by step" through the progression harmony as usually represented as written on paper nor memorized as a sequence of changes. To me "how it goes" feels like it is represented as rotations in a space of chord types' sounds.
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    Imagine the type ball has chord symbols instead of a character set; the sequence of rotations presenting the ball's chord types in order for the tune is "how it goes".
    Now imagine that the ball is a collection of not chord type symbols but is a collection of the way they phenomenologically sound, that is closest to the internal feeling. Every change of harmony is a geometrical movement within a space of sound.
    The more I read that back the stranger it sounds... still my best sense of it.

    How much do I improvise?
    In a trio, almost continually, intros, chords, melody, solos proper, comping, endings

    Improvise with the melody?
    Of course

    Improvise with the bop idiom
    Unless swing, blues, gypsy, fusion, chord melody is advised (see What? below)

    How much rhythms to add?
    Rhythm is functional, foundational, a given; integral, not additive

    When do I play?
    In a trio, pretty much almost all the time in various ways

    How do I play?
    By ear, aural intuition, exclusively. No books, charts, lead sheets
    I play "barefoot"; clean no pedals

    What do I play?
    Jazz from 30s to 60s, some Latin, popular, a dozen tunes I've composed. For individual tunes, I gauge the audience, use my musical judgement, and go for the best balance of authenticity, appropriateness, and allure (the Jazz versions of the ancient trancendentals of Truth, Goodness, and Beauty)

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    I'm just starting to dig into the Troy Grady stuff but I watched the whole Pickslanting Primer just now and it's very helpful. I found the whole thing a bit cheesy and I have zero interest in metal music but ultimately picking notes on the string is not genre specific.

    I'm really interested in the Antigravity Idea (as far as I understand it). Mostly downward pickslanting but upwards when needed. I've been doing pretty strict gypsy picking for a couple years and this seems like something I can adapt to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sully75
    I'm just starting to dig into the Troy Grady stuff but I watched the whole Pickslanting Primer just now and it's very helpful. I found the whole thing a bit cheesy and I have zero interest in metal music but ultimately picking notes on the string is not genre specific.

    I'm really interested in the Antigravity Idea (as far as I understand it). Mostly downward pickslanting but upwards when needed. I've been doing pretty strict gypsy picking for a couple years and this seems like something I can adapt to.
    It's good that you're finding the Grady stuff useful.

    I subscribed to your youtube channel and had noticed you're a downward pickslanter.

  7. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by James W
    It's good that you're finding the Grady stuff useful.

    I subscribed to your youtube channel and had noticed you're a downward pickslanter.
    I've been working on more or less pure gypsy jazz picking for a couple of years. I am not fast, but the motion feels natural to me. But it does limit the way you can play a lot of things, so I would like something that I can add to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sully75
    I've been working on more or less pure gypsy jazz picking for a couple of years. I am not fast, but the motion feels natural to me. But it does limit the way you can play a lot of things, so I would like something that I can add to it.
    You might like to check out Cecil Alexander's picking lesson from his website. If it still exists, that is, I think he may have taken it off.

    Anyway, I mention it because he's someone whose base form is downward pickslanting but he has a few work-arounds. Which, actually are probably mentioned on the thread about him on this forum.
    Which is here - Cecil Alexander picking technique