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Never used a Fender before, itching to try one. Something cheap just to fool around with, maybe a used Squier. But which one?
Strat, Tele, Jag, Jazzm?
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05-29-2024 11:34 AM
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Used always means try-before-you-buy to me. I'm biased but I would say Tele, for the simplicity.
Do you have a preference in pickup, single coil or humbucker? Humbucker makes it harder to find a Fender.
Check out the G&L Tribute Bluesboy:
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I just saw Fender has a SH Squier Tele:
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AKA the "Christmas tree Tele" ! :-)
Doug
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If you're planning on buying a squier I highly recommend either the John 5 Telecaster or the J. Mascis Jazzmaster. Both are really great guitars from personal experience.
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Yeah, that was "eye catching". Also in black, for them Johnny Cash songs. This would have been a good guitar for Fender to try out a black Richlite fretboard...
Originally Posted by Doug B
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A tele would give you the least culture shock assuming that you are coming from archtops and/or Gibson style guitars and pickups.
Strats and Jazzmasters have more distinct sounds. But then maybe that's what makes them more interesting choices. The risk with a Tele is that you might end up selling your other guitars, lol. There is something "freeing" about teles in comparison to archtops and they are more comfortable as everyday guitars for most people.
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Definitely single coil. That’s sorta the point. Just to mess around with that sound. I have always used humbuckers and have a few of those. I do like those “in between” sounds of the 5-way, so I may go with Strat. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
Oh, and, Surf Green.
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Do the Tele and Strat neck pu’s sound similar? How about the bridge pu’s?
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No. Tele single coils sound fatter than Strat pickups. Strats have that scooped and thin but sweet thing going on. Think funk rhythm guitar. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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All I can tell you is that, as primarily an archtop player these days, I frequently play my telecaster and only rarely my strat. Odd, because the strat was one of my main gigging guitars back in the day. And both are great pre-CBS instruments.
In fact I am looking at putting together a jazz telecaster, maybe with a P90 or Gretsch style single coil in the neck position, all Julian Lage.
Telecasters are awesome, straightforward guitars. More useful than strats for jazz IMHO, but strats are great at their own thing if you are looking for that.
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I've had a Fender Strat and a Yamaha Strat copy.
There are lots of obvious differences. One that was less obvious was the fingerboard radius. The Fender is 9.5. The Yamaha is, I think, 14.
I couldn't get used to the 9.5 -- and Fenders also come in 7.5 iirc.
The Yamaha, a Pacifica 012 made in Indonesia, feels great. It doesn't sound as good as the Fender.
My point is to give some thought to the radius.
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Tnx Rog, good point. Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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Scale length. I have an L-5 and like the 25 1/2" scale, so the same scale on a Tele was nice. YMMV.
If you prefer single coil pups, the "jumbo MFDs" on the G&L ASAT Special are good, like a P-90 with more highs and lows. Some people say they are too hot, but then some people always have their knobs set at 10
Is this ... surf green?!
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I Love Strats (and I have three of them) and have tried Teles (I could never bond with a Tele or a 335). I would suggest a MIM (made in Mexico) Strat. A perfect used example can be had for around $450 and you will be amazed at how good they are.
The Strat is the most popular electric guitar in the world for good reason.
Listen to Yotem Silberstein to see how great a Strat can sound (of course take into consideration that his is a boutique Strat that would cost you about 4K).
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Yeah if you want the in between jangles and single coils then just get a strat.
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I went with the Reverend Pete Anderson Eastsider T guitar. I just liked the specs better than what I was seeing on the Fender Models. Fender makes so many models at numerous price points that I find I get rather confused by it all. It has a 10 14 fret board radius.
Pete talks about the guitar about 15 minutes into this video.
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I love a strat, but if you are coming from archtops and gibsons, it's not the easiest to adjust to. I also love teles. I think teles are a little more intuitive for people new to fender.
I have no experience with jaguars and jazzmasters and not looking for any.
Last thing to add: teles and strats with a set of 12s are amazing.
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I'd say one of each
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The Player Plus Nashville Tele is worth a look. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Definitely single coil. That’s sorta the point. Just to mess around with that sound. I have always used humbuckers and have a few of those. I do like those “in between” sounds of the 5-way, so I may go with Strat.
Oh, and, Surf Green.
- Alder body, maple neck
- 12" radius fingerboard, pau ferro or maple available (vintage spec is 7.25" radius)
- 1.685" nut (vintage spec is 1.650")
- noiseless Tele pickups at neck and bridge, noiseless Strat pickup in the middle (vintage spec are single coil)
- switching that allows bridge, bridge & middle, middle, middle & neck, neck, bridge & neck, and all 3 pickups
- 6-saddle bridge
- Tummy cut in the back (not typical of Teles, but this isn't a typical Tele)
- About US$1030
I'm not aware that it's offered in surf green. There's always the Mod Shop for special colors, but that would cost twice as much. A can of green paint would be cheaper but would probably not be finished as nicely.
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Hmmm, that’s interesting. And yes, that’s surf green. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
Scale length. I have an L-5 and like the 25 1/2" scale, so the same scale on a Tele was nice. YMMV.
If you prefer single coil pups, the "jumbo MFDs" on the G&L ASAT Special are good, like a P-90 with more highs and lows. Some people say they are too hot, but then some people always have their knobs set at 10
Is this ... surf green?!
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I don’t think this is accurate. Strats get a rap for being thin but that’s because of the out of phase in between positions. A strat neck pickup sounds thick and open. Usually people who compare both consider the tele to be thinner sounding. In reality both types of pickups can accommodate thinner and thicker sounds. Where they really differ is the bridge pickup: ie tele bridge pickups are almost always fatter sounding than strat ones. Originally Posted by Tal_175
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I think tele neck pickups have fatter cleans. Once you get some grit going, Strat neck pickups give you a lot more useable tone, whereas teles kind of "splat out."
Tele bridge pickups are definitely a little more of everything vs. a strat.
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Squier Jaguar
Surf Green
Alnico Single-Coil
24 Inch Scale
Try playing sitting with a Jaguar, it's a great off-set body shape to play seated.
Much more comfy than a Tele or a Strat. (I've had plenty of both.)
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Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
I think it's more that strat neck pickups have a particular sort of resonant bit hint of "quack" to them that teles don't have, whereas teles have more neutral neck tone that you can mistake for other things like P90s or DeArmonds. Think "Wind Cries Mary" vs "Soul Man". Agreed, though that tele bridge pickups are mostly higher output and fatter sounding, thought it really does depend on the specific pickups. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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