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    I have a Gretsch Rat Rod and Epiphone Les Paul 100 with a Benedetto B6 in the neck. The Rat Rod is a lot lighter, although it could be lighter if I removed the bigsby, but I don't really like the way it sounds for jazz. The Epiphone sounds nice, and it's one of the lighter bolt on models, but my shoulder gets sore playing it for a couple hours.

    I was looking into selling off some gear and getting an Epiphone Casino Coupe or a Hofner Ignition:

    Lightweight budget guitars?-1_full_straight_front_na-3a262ed3e55c178b519385fc6913faaa-jpgLightweight budget guitars?-nl5ook6uym5su83wqc8g-jpg

    Any other guitars I should be aware of? I like the sound of the Benedetto B6 and neither of these are routed for humbuckers; I might end up liking the sound of the p90 or mini humbucker in the Hofner.

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    I'm happy with Casino Coupe. Offers a wide range of tones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug
    I'm happy with Casino Coupe. Offers a wide range of tones.
    Currently looking for one. I can't find any good deals online. I'm also a picky about the fretboard material; the darker ones look nicer in my opinion.

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    Yes, my fretboard is on the lighter side. But what the heck with a turqoise guitar. I'm old and play for even greyer audiences, so a color spot brightens the atmospere.

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    I would check for how well the frets are done with a Casino Coupe. I almost bought one once, but it was getting some fret buzz.

    The tech at the store grab his straight edge, and found a bunch of problem areas.

    Outside of that problem, it seemed like a very useable guitar. If I did not have a bunch of guitar already, I might try and search down one that did not have fret problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.bede
    I would check for how well the frets are done with a Casino Coupe. I almost bought one once, but it was getting some fret buzz.

    The tech at the store grab his straight edge, and found a bunch of problem areas.

    Outside of that problem, it seemed like a very useable guitar. If I did not have a bunch of guitar already, I might try and search down one that did not have fret problems.
    I couldn't find any listed nearby. For some reason they're not showing up on guitar center's website.

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    How about an Ibanez AMH90? Or Godin 5th Avenue CW Kingpin II HB?

    You don't say what "budget" means to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.bede
    If I did not have a bunch of guitar already, I might try and search down one that did not have fret problems.
    As many of us have said in many threads, a good setup is mandatory for “low budget” guitars. Very few will be perfectly playable out of the box for many reasons, and frets are high on the list. They’re tossed around and left to sit on trucks, in warehouses, on store racks etc long enough to be affected by temp, humidity, etc. The cost of a setup after the instrument is assembled would drive up the retail price. And they’re not left to settle in before whatever final inspection is done before shipping.

    Many are excellent players once they get a fret leveling and dress, proper nut and bridge saddle adjustments, smoothing of any fret sprout and rough cut edges, etc. And they often come with capellini strings, so they have to be set up for linguini or other string gauge of your choice. This is all part of the total cost of ownership - it makes the difference between “just cheap” and “good but inexpensive”, and it’s well worth it. You truly get what you pay for.

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    For me 800$ is still a lot of money. There are reasons for a guitar having problems, but I think that needs to be fully explained and justified. At the very least a person buying a guitar should have full knowledge.

    I hate to see kids, whose parents do not make much money end up with guitars that need expensive work. They have no idea, and just assume that they are buying a good guitar. That assumption is promoted by people who benefit from basically lying.

    Here is my logic:

    If bought I burger that had gross lettuce and was even made well, but sat in the warmer until it became mussy, I think I would have a right to a better burger, unless it was clearly told to me, that I was saving money by buying a day old burger, and that I would have to buy a new bun, and lettuce to eat it.

    It is all about responsibility. I do feel that, there is a lack of clarity and lack of responsibility.

    I also believe that things have changed, and that those changes are not based on ability, but lack of responsibility. The motivation being higher profit that benefits very few people. We are seeing more and more structural problems.

    The solutions are beyond me. It will take people putting aside ideologies, and working together to come up with solutions. I see completely crazy stuff from everyone on every side. Justification and excuses, with little ability to communicate. Maybe it is fear. IDK
    Last edited by st.bede; 06-29-2023 at 03:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
    ...And they often come with capellini strings, so they have to be set up for linguini or other string gauge of your choice...
    Never heard it explained that way, but I love it! Of course, some might take this analogy literally:


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    I'd skip the Hofner Ignition guitar. It's junk.

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    Squier thinline CV 60's Telecaster
    Very lightweight, around 400€