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Originally Posted by 3rdwaverider
JD
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01-20-2021 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rolijen
I played my EER against the wall the other day, so I could her the acoustic sound and it was quite nice. Pretty full. Louder than my 165, but not as smooth.
Yes, this guitar is definitely a joy to play. I outkicks its coverage big time..
Thanks and Stay Strong!
Joe D
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Originally Posted by Fred Archtop
Thanks, Joe D
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Originally Posted by Max405
You have converted me, btw, to thinking that floating pickups on an otherwise acoustic guitar are just fine even for a laminated body. I used to think that was a no-go, but that laminated body has its own magic, even acoustically, and the lam-body+floater works brilliantly on the second-series ES165's, and evidently also on the EER.
I actually had an EER about 25 years ago and like an idiot, sold it for a fraction of what I should have.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Last time I talked to Kent Armstrong, he told me specifically, that his 12 pole floaters are designed to make you feel like like, "you lose Nothing" by going with a floater. If I could, I would spring for one of his Gold 12 pole floaters and put it on this guitar. Then, I would have the best of both worlds. A nice acoustic and an electric guitar that is close to being without compromise. But that is not necessary for me right now.
You are not missing anything. Unless you love the sound acoustic sound of a guitar and you dont have one to play. Your Monarch is probably a much better guitar than this EER.
JD
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Originally Posted by Max405
I don't know if the monarch is a much better guitar, but I do know it has been a "no drama" guitar. I have never even had the truss rod cover off, never touched a fret, never even had to crank the bridge wheels. It is perfectly set up and stable. I don't know why I don't play it more than I do!
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Originally Posted by Fred Archtop
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C74, I got a chuckle out of that one.
JD
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
cheers
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Congrats beautiful Epi and nice playing. Enjoy.
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Originally Posted by 73Fender
Brian is great at what he does. Ask for the “shredder” treatment.
Joe D
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Originally Posted by Max405
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Originally Posted by Max405
I have the same guitar from the same era, but in blonde. I have always LOVED it. Your post made me take it out and play it and re-remember how much I love it.
The reason I hadn't been playing it much lately is because I purchased a 1959 Epiphone Deluxe Cutaway which is almost a clone. The EER model seemed to have been inspired by the Deluxe Cutaway as I believe it is virtually identical in terms of specs etc. (although laminate versus solid of course). Here's my Deluxe Cutaway. It was the 3rd one made by Gibson after it acquired Epiphone.
1959 Epiphone Deluxe
It too is a stellar guitar. I love them both. Even though I believe my Deluxe Cutaway was at the top of the line in 1959, my EER is remarkably comparable. In fact I've always struggled with accepting the EER to be as great as it is as I stupidly couldn't get over the fact that how can such a great guitar be so darn cheap to buy!! Sort of magical really. One of those great values you stumble on in life every once in a while.
Anyway I was wondering if you'd explain your detailing process you speak of above. My EER shines nothing like yours and I'd love to get it there. Did you use all those products in sequence? When I google them I noticed I may end up spending more on getting all of them than I did for the guitarThanks in advance for any advice.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
1st thank you for your post and the nice things you said.
Your guitar is a beautiful piece of history. It has that unmistakeable Epiphone cutaway profile. Love it.
Your Emperor Regent is beautiful in blond.
My detailing process was necessary to get some of the scratches out of this guitar.
I use a Porter cable random orbital buffer. I use a Green ultra cut pad and Meguires 101. This brought finish down the the depth of the scratches. So now the scratches are gone, but the finish is dull. Then I went to an orange pad and Meguires 105. That brought the finish back at speed 4, then I jeweled it at high speed (6). Keep the pad moving or you will burn through. This brought the finish to a high luster and I probably could have left it at that. But... out came a black pad and the Menzerna po85rd. You can work this stuff into the surface for a long time and it just keeps getting shinier and shinier. Once you are satisfied wipe off the product and use a 10% alcohol and 90% water solution to remove the po85rd residue. This stuff is loaded with a lubricant which allows you to work the polish eternally. If you don’t wipe it completely free of this residue the Virtuoso polish will not adhere to the surface. I use 2 coats of the Virtuoso. Or if you have Menzerna PowerLock, it’s basically the same thing.
Very important! Use a pure Carnuba wax on the gold parts. The virtuoso or powerlock contain solvents that will reduce the life of the gold coatings. Only use pure Carnuba with no solvents or abrasives.
Your guitar will sit on your wall thinking it’s a Monteleone. A $600 Radio Flyer.
Enjoy your guitars. You have 2 guitars that are capable of unlimited musical ecstasy.
Joe D
Originally Posted by PaulW10
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yeah man...that's the breakdown straight from Joe D...marvelous!
that epi glows!
cheers
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Originally Posted by Max405
I wonder if these products would work on all types of guitar finishes?
Anyway thanks again for your reply!
Paul
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Hi guys, I added a Video to this post because I am very excited about the sound and the use of my IPhone 12Pro Max camera. I’ve recorded this song before with the solid Formed and the sound was awful. The difference in sound is I am using the great DaVinci Resolve for video editing. I was using Corel VideoStudio which wasn’t very good.
Thanks guys.
Joe D
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Originally Posted by Max405
The tone from this guitar is absolutely superb. Its the best version Ive heard of the tune from you.
In a blindfold test, one might assume that it is hand built by a master Luthier. But as has been
said previously it is the quality of the fletcher not the bow. Congratulations on yet another very
nice rendition of a favourite Standard. Thank you my friend for sharing this with us.
Best, 007
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That is just beautiful, Joe. The EER indeed has an outstanding neck, as nice as anything I have played, and the way the neck hangs in the seated position really makes it possible for a nice relaxed approach to the fingerboard, at least for me. Thanks for posting this.
Last edited by citizenk74; 01-26-2021 at 05:41 PM. Reason: tYp0
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more niceness Joe D...it doesn't have some of the low end lushness that some of your other guitars had...a bit more one dimensional...but still, a wonderful dimension...and the fact that it's on an imported epi, that most players can afford- icing!
it all comes down to ears..and you got'em pal
cheers
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Originally Posted by silverfoxx
It’s a real beautiful song. The iPhone video is more colorful, clearer and is 1/10 the size of the webcam files!
Thank you my friend and the pleasure as always is all mine.
Joe D
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
As always thank you for the really nice words buddy.
Joe D
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Originally Posted by Max405
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
What sound source are you using?
It’s a shame Gibson/Epiphone doesn’t make this guitar anymore. I honestly think the Korean Peerless facility was a cut above in terms of quality/longevity and overall value. I do remember buying a blond one brand new back in 2017 and I had to return it. The nut was about 3/16” too high. The bridge was buried. And the action was absurdly high. I believe they were made in China in 2017. The guitar was not even playable.
Once again thank you for your posts. Between the last 3 responses, I am surrounded by the class of the organization!
Thanks bud. JD
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the low notes are solid...but lush is harder to define or capture!...the recording is low end tight and clean, super well done...but the guitar and perhaps in combination with the mia ka pup doesn't have the rich low end harmonic content that some of your other guitars had....which is no insult!! you had some guitars!!
and yes it does sound similar to your solid formed...but that wasn't my fave either!! hah..they both sound a little tight to me..by compare...(and i have been enjoying your playing vids a long time now!)
no putdown...i think you always bring out the best in your guitars...playing, looks, recording etc...but all guitars are unique!
cheersLast edited by neatomic; 01-24-2021 at 08:36 PM. Reason: clarity
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JD, you could make a cigar box with strings sound good.
There is no doubt that guitars from Japan and Korea are sounding great these days. That is a pretty nice looking "beater" you got there.
And I do not believe that your guitar buying days are over. Your saying so brings to mind an old story about a wolf and someone crying.
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Originally Posted by neatomic
JD
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Originally Posted by Stringswinger
JD
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You've inspired me to play my Peerless Monarch more! I've been enjoying it all weekend, though it has a pickup that is a bit more "thunky" than I want on a floater. I'm thinking of putting the KA 12 pole on it. I always enjoy your playing, and the lovely sound you elicit from whatever guitar you're playing.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Is your stock pickup decent? Does it have any volume to it? The stock pickup on this guitar was bad enough for the previous owner to make a switch to this non-Kent made Kent Armstrong. This pickup is pretty weak too. I would guesstimate it to have 60% of the BJB's volume. Maybe 75% of the George Benson Special Ibanez pickup volume. Good thing I can boost the level on my EQ in the Boss GT-001 without introducing any artificial colorization of the sound. That device is a God send. I just wish it had a looper. I'd be a much better improvisational player if it did..
Thanks again Lawson.
PS, If you are interested, I put another video up on my YouTube channel that I recorded at the same with this one. Autumn Nocturne. Yeah, I know..
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hope you don't mind Joe D....too nice not to put up here!!
another beauty
cheers
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Originally Posted by Max405
The pickup on my Peerless Monarch is unusual. It's really THICK even compared to the KA 12 Pole. See below, the Peerless is on the Left.
It has the volume, but it also is a bit on the dark side. I posted on the "jam" thread a quick clip of "Beatrice" using the Peerless. From a guitar with a floater, I really want it to be clear, not anywhere close to "muddy." Yours actually sounds nicer than my Peerless pickup, which I think is a pretty generic one judging from the markings on the back of it.
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Thank You Neatomic. You are the best! I up rez'd the Iphone12 pro Max clip to 30 fps, instead of the 24 that I used on the other video and I think it smoothed it a out a little. I am trying the get the best possible recording setup, so I could concentrate on playing more. I still want to make a DVD, all dressed up and stuff for my friends and my family. That would be nice.
Lawson, got it. I am going to listen to your clip. Please do me a favor. If you install the hand wound KA 12 pole, please tell me what you think of it. I am considering buying that very same one. I'd love to hear or hear your thoughts on the Hand wound KA on the Monarch.
Thank You Guys!
JD
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Originally Posted by Max405
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Lawson,
I just caught the YT post that you made playing " Whisper Not" which you should
post here also, congratulations on your rendition, a favourite of mine. The
regulatory Pork Pie hat is cool too !
007
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Originally Posted by silverfoxx
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Hi,
I edited one more video today with this guitar.
I find myself playing this guitar every day. It has become exactly what I had envisioned that it would be. A guitar like this is needs to be setup correctly. The neck is one piece. So it is susceptable to variation when the weather changes. Not large variations. Just subtle ones. When I got the guitar back from Brian the neck was dead perfectly flat. Extremely low action. Since then, I raised the bridge a half turn because I was getting some very slight muting in the middle strings from the 9th to the 12 fret. Now its fine.
It is a very cost effective, excellent guitar that demands to be played. Every thing about it is welcoming. The feel of the neck. The edges of the fretboard are rolled off perfectly. The balance of the notes all over the fretboard. The nice even tone, that doesn't overwhelm your senses. I am glad I bought this guitar. I dont mean this in a bad way, but it reminds me every day just how GREAT my L5 is. I know I say this alot, but this EER will be with me a long, long time.
I have no desire to buy any more guitars.
I hope you like my video.
Thanks everyone.
JD
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glad to see you bonding so nicely with the epi Joe D...makin it sound great!
neck movement is within the domain of trussrod adjustment...keep your trussrod tool handy and you won't have to fool with bridge height...keep the action low without dead notes
really nice playin ...as always!! great version of my romance!...bravo
and to think epi has no current real jazzy archtops in the line up at present...sad
cheers
ps- funny there's an older thread making the rounds again here...
DO YOU REGRET BUYING AN EPIPHONE?
after this wonderful thread, it should be- do you regret NOT buying an epiphone! haha
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Originally Posted by Max405
Joe,
Perfect moments do not just happen. They are made.
I both want to practice until my fingers fall off, and give up and sell everything.
I’ll try the practice route for now, knowing I will not get there - but have a target to aim for.
Inspirational.
Beyond superb.
This vid answers every question about where a guitar is made, how much it costs, the pedigree of the name, the brand of the strings, the phase of the moon, the politics of stupidity, the value of expression, the reason for playing, the fingers of the player vs. EVERYTHING else.
11 out of 10.
Many thanks.
EDIT: 21 out of 10
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Originally Posted by Bezoeker
haha
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
Neatomic, I appreciate you bud. You know your stuff and I value your opinion.
Thanks, JD
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Originally Posted by Bezoeker
I’ve said before, the privilege of being able to make music with my hands is something I am going give my God a big hug for when I see him, hopefully in about 30 years. I don’t take a morsel of it for granted.
Making videos is not easy work. The playing is just the beginning. Setting up the lighting, Setting the cameras, focusing them making sure my volume is right. Then try not get nervous while I play some seriously hard stuff. Try not to mess up (too much). And then editing, flowing the multiple camera output, adding movement with dynamic zoom, enhancing the audio, color correction ripping the file then I have to come with a description for YouTube. It’s amazing that I can get through all of that. One person.
All this one person ever wants is for people to enjoy what I do. A 7 out of 10 is all I reasonably can expect. But a 21 out of 10?!? Nnnniiice!
Bezoeker I really appreciate what you said. And like Neatomic says.. it’s all in the strings. The red silk. That’s where the music starts.
Thank you very, very much.
Joe D
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Originally Posted by Max405
and thoms ain't bad!
cheers
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Originally Posted by Max405
Nah, just kidding, I've know it all along! Seriously, wonderful interpretation of the song. Keep up the good work!
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
Thanks, JD
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That's really splendid Joe. Just gorgeous. You have inspired me to go back and play my Epi's more!
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Lawson, there’s a beautiful Monarch for sale on Reverb with a hand wound Kent Armstrong on it.
If I didn’t have the Emperor Regent, I’d buy that one in a second.
JD
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Originally Posted by Max405
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Lawson, that Monarch was tempting to me. It was only $700. Excellent condition. With a Gold 12 pole hand wound KA. When I went back to order it, it was gone already. It would have been fun to A-B them. That’s IF my wife didn’t kill me 1st. Somebody saved me. Hopefully someone here..
I’m glad you are playing that guitar. It’s too nice to just sit in a case.
JD
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