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    I have an odd situation
    I am looking for:

    (most likely) laminate archtop
    non-cutaway
    with pickup
    acoustically dead sounding
    under $500

    this guitar will sit out on a stand in my living room and be plugged into the new Harmony octal tube amp.

    the amp is very quiet and my Modified Epiphone masterbilt DeLuxe acoustic voice overpowers the amp even with flatwounds on it. So I am looking for something very quiet acoustically - the Epi has a solid pressed top, so I was thinking of going all laminate

    Godin 5th ave?
    Washburn HB-15?
    Alden AD150 maybe?

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    I have a harley benton Manhattan Standard, which seems like a pretty good fit to what you're looking for (especially considering, that it only costs about 220 €), except for the fact, that i don't think it's acoustically dead.
    I made a Post about it, when i got it, I'll see if i can find it!

    Paul

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    Harley Benton Custom Line Manhattan-Standard
    That was my NGD thread about that guitar.
    It's not overly acoustic, and might be cool for you, since it's also got a slightly thinner body.

    Paul

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    Godin 5th ave precisely fits the bill. Decent guitars.

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    Spray foam through an f-hole if the guitar is too ‘alive’?

    Is it the hollowbody or the pickup that is causing the amp to be overpowered? I’d guess the pickup myself - assuming you want a clean clean sound.

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    The Amp is not overdriving, it is a very quiet amp with a 6” speaker - the sound is very nice, but the acoustic sound of the guitar ends up being as loud as the amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilspeers
    Spray foam through an f-hole if the guitar is too ‘alive’?
    .
    Nooooooo !
    not spray foam nooooo

    just normal soft foam

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu
    Nooooooo !
    not spray foam nooooo

    just normal soft foam
    Cotton balls?

    Ah yes - loud guitar. Something like this might work, a local guitar assembler (not quite a luthier- he uses pre-made necks) built this body to make a jazz style guitar.


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    Godin 5th ave is a pretty acoustically resonant guitar for it's size, but if you put some flats on it and keep the action low, you'll be ok. Maybe cover the f-holes?

    All the deadest sounding laminate guitars I know are cutaways, and labelled "Ibanez."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Godin 5th ave is a pretty acoustically resonant guitar for it's size, but if you put some flats on it and keep the action low, you'll be ok. Maybe cover the f-holes?

    All the deadest sounding laminate guitars I know are cutaways, and labelled "Ibanez."
    I agree about the dead-ness of the Ibanez guitars - I wish that they made a non-cut
    i actually owned a kingpin for half-a-day before, but I judged it only on its stock strings into a pretty bright amp abd wasn’t feeling it - but I think that setting it up with pure nickel flats might do the trick

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    I used to have the non-cut acoustic Godin 5th Avenue. I had a Pete Biltoft floating CC style pickup on it.
    It's the one guitar I kick myself for selling. It had a great pre-bop sound . It was acoustically pretty lively though.

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    If the amp isn't as loud as an unamplified guitar, it isn't much of an amp. I think I would just play the guitar without an amp.

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    It's a 5W tube amp. Surprised it won't keep up in the living room. Maybe set up the amp closer to your ears?

    Sometimes when I'm turned way down low, I can hear my guitar (most have ports) as well as the amp. I kind of like it.

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    Epiphone made that Century for a while, those were pretty cool, and thin bodied, so not nearly as loud as the Kingpin...

    P90 through that octal amp will be the bees knees.

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    Did I miss what amp it is? Is there something out there that isn't as loud as any acoustic guitar?
    Every tiny practice amp I have ever owned could be heard over any guitar.

    What amp are we talking about here?

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    the new Harmony octal amp is not very loud- NO WAY you could use it live, except maybe in a solo, small coffee shop situation. It's like it was built to get the sound of amplified archtop at LIVING ROOM volumes. That's what it does. I really dig it.

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    Just played an HB-15. It was, acoustically, fairly alive.
    You may have better luck with a loar