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2 completely different type strings!!!
no compare!!!
thoms are thin round core steel inners with 2 wraps of soft pure nickel ribbon outer wraps..low tension..and easy flexibility
d'addario's are typical stainless steel hex core with stainless outer wrap...& highly magnetic amplified
i love d'addario...(had relatives who worked there!)
but euro thom's are extra-special quality..(for those that appreciate/require that)
cheers
ps- glad to see dutchbopper back aboard...Last edited by neatomic; 02-14-2019 at 12:10 AM.
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02-13-2019 11:53 PM
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Nope - I like the LB nylon tape flats, but am TI-curious :-) as so many folks rave about them. Tried Chromes once and they were too dull for me, but that was on a Les Paul that I usually strung with roundwounds.
Originally Posted by Bebop Tom
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I had bad experiences with La Bella flat wounds, which I used to love.
They tried to help by replacing dead sounding sets.
Ultimately, they were insistent that there had been any change in their use of materials.
However the replacement FW sets were all awful.
So I went to D'Addario chromes that are nice and bright/clear but have that characteristic FW "thunk"
They [DA's] also last and last.
I've used TI's offerings across their flatwound offerings and find them to be dead straight out of the pack
and pretty puny in their tension/string gauge ratio.
Also where I live DA's are about half the price of TI's.
= No contest!
I am aware that this issue is personal to each individual.
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Amazon lists TI Swings as Thomastik Accordion Accessory JS112. I know that accordians are popular in Austria, but I've never seen one with strings on it???
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Question: Why is there so much "nickle diming" when it comes to strings that many of you say you may only change once a year?
Thousands on guitars, hundreds on amps, pedals and other accessories potentially but the very thing that some of you make your living with, produces the sound and that you have direct contact with at all times is the thing that some are trying to save a few pennies on? I know blues/rock electric players (and others) have to change strings a ton, but this doesn't seem to be the case with Jazz/Flatwound users.
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Some members here have 87 archtops, so it adds up. I don't care so much about the price differences of flatwouds as they last, unless if I'm just trying out a new brand and I don't know if I'll keep them or not. Originally Posted by DMgolf66
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Understood, I should have mentioned if you had an army full of guitars then of course. Originally Posted by Tal_175
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I don't get why low tension-ness of TI is seen as an advantage. It's low tension because it's lower gauge on some of the bass strings, so you can just get a lower gauge Chrome but get higher gauge b and high e strings separately if you want lower tension. Plains wear out more easily anyway.
Round core I believe is not a factor in TI being lower tension. Round cores have a bit more flexibility which results in a "perceived" lower tension. But to me flexibility of lower strings just reduces picking accuracy. I mean to the extent that they are more flexible, we are talking about minuscule differences here anyway.
Brightness of chromes is there only for the first few days of it's use. They mellow out quickly. It's also not bad to retain some definition on the flatwound low strings IMO.Last edited by Tal_175; 02-14-2019 at 10:41 PM.
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I like the tone for the DA chromes, but they are murder to frets. At least for me I would need to dress the frets every three or four months with a refret likely after a couple years. With almost any other string my fret wear is minimal.
YMMV
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the string material is what makes the difference..pure nickel is expensive!!! & its much softer on the fingers and the frets and fretboard!!! thoms are double wrapped with thin ribbon pure nickel outer wraps...
stainless steel like chromes are much harder on frets..and yes have higher magnetic output with pickups......pure nickels have much smoother response..but differences in volume can be compensated with pickup height adjustments
no compare..a thomastik flat is a much more expensive string to manufacture than a typical usa made stainless steel flat...
if you really have 87 guitars..sell one and get the best quality strings for the other 86!!!
cheers
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Current ( Just Strings ) prices :
12-52 Chromes $15.00 +/-
12-52 Pyramid Gold $20.00 +/- ( flat wound nickel )
12-50 TI $28.00 +/- ( " " " )
It seems to me if the determining factor were the high cost of nickel, TI's & PG's would be closer in price, but they're obviously not.
Bottom line, TI just seems pretty proud of their stuff.
MHO
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With TI and Pyramid you need a bit of luck that they don't come out of their unsealed packages already corroded.
I have pyramid gold installed on one of my guitars, chromes on another. Like them both.
Pyramid was corroded already in the package. I wiped the strings with some WD40 before installing. It seems to have helped.
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Aren't you guys forgetting that the US is not in the European Union? What about import duties? Like I said, over here a TI set is about 14.50 euros. Importing a Gibson costs a fortune over here. Originally Posted by Dennis D
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It seems to me that the main point of the post you quoted is that TI's are more expensive than Pyramid's too although they are both nickel: Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
Aren't both TI and Pyramid Austrian companies? Originally Posted by Dennis D
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TI -> Austria Originally Posted by Tal_175
Pyramid -> Germany, but founded in Austria
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Yes TI is an Austrian company, but Pyramid looks to be German. Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Thanks. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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What Dennis meant is that the relative price should be near the same if the cost of the materials is the same. Both Pyramids and TIs are imported from the EU, so the cost of import duties should be about the same. TI charges a significant markup, for whatever reasons.
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i don't see much of a difference, the main one being price, i don't need lower tension, i love my .13 chromes on my comins
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I just put some Chromes back on my Ibanez Artcore, which has those rather average (IMO) "ACH" pickups, and I have to say they sound pretty darn good. Bags of body and output, yet smooth at the same time.
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For flatwounds TI's are what I use. Generally it's the 12-50 or 13-53 sets I use, but I have lately been putting the 11-48 set on my Telecaster. I'm in Australia - they're pretty expensive here but so are the Chromes.
I find the Chromes feel too stiff, but also feel less smooth under the fingers. In addition to that, Chromes wear through frets quite rapidly. They sound good though, but I have issues with the wound strings being way too loud in relation to the plain strings. The pickups on my guitars seem to be made for pure nickel strings. With TIs the volume balance across the strings is perfect.
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A couple of years ago I did a thread here encouraging folks to join together to order from Thomann. TI JI112s are $13.76 with a $34 flat shipping. So if you order 10 sets, they come in at about $17 a set. I coordinated the purchase, and saved some money for myself and some other folks who signed on, but it was enough work so that I would not do it again. But if I had 87 archtops, that is what I would do.
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If you have 87 archtops, just string them all up with TIs and rotate through a different one each day. You’ll play each of them 4 to 5 days out of the year, tops. You’ll probably never have to change strings again.
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