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04-15-2018 01:28 PM
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too dissonant for you guys?
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for me ok,...:-)
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7 minute jamming without changing a sound ?
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i was demonstrating the tracking and got carried away by how fun and keyboard like it is to play. Sorry you didn't dig it.
Originally Posted by virtuoso
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it did say "quick" demo. It's not a full, boss-sponsored demo afterall...I plan on doing another demo of more of the sounds but I don't even have a hold pedal for it yet!
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SY-300 is a inspiration for playing crazy staff...:-)
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Definitely! It gives you the power of a sax or electric piano! Originally Posted by kris
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Jack,
Personally I think you and this gizmo are a match made in heaven. You are actually playing the sh*t out of it as an instrument, not just pushing buttons and wanking through patches like nearly all of the other demos of gear like this. Your stuff in this video reminds me of some fusion from the early 90s, when horn players like Brecker were using the EWI (i.e. with Steps Ahead). It transcends the cliches of guitaristic expression.
Jam on!
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I'm not really much for synth sounds, but this kind of video can change my mind.
Was really impressed by the tracking...chords, legato, fast stuff...it kept up. Never heard a guitar synth that really could.
(and nice playing, by the way)
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Thanks brother, I'm so grateful to you for getting this thing into my hands. I feel like it's going to inspire me to get to another level in terms of inside/outside playing. Originally Posted by rpguitar
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Thanks for the video, and I think many appreciate pushing "outside" as much as you'd feel like it, posting clips of that is welcomed.
Straight ahead playing is great, but it's surely not the only way to enjoy music !
For the SY300, it seemed to track well, and not glitch when polyphonic.
Were there any issues found on tracking or playing chords, where certain notes dropped from uneven dynamics?
How'd you like this compared to Jam Origins Midi ? I understand they are different products, and the Boss seems self-contained, but how alike are they for latency/tracking with your regular guitar?
John
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Thanks for your comments. Chords are the weak link of this device. I don't see anything like dropout or wrong notes as I experienced with dim5 intervals with guitar midi 2 but when playing chords, the sound generation seems to break down in terms of audio quality. I'm not sure what causes that and some patches are worse than others. For example, there are a couple organ patches that sound great for single lines but when I try to use them for comping - even playing with pick and fingers - they sound funky (and not in a good way)
Compared to jam origins midi (guitar midi 2), the tracking is much faster and much more accurate. Some of the faster playing I did in that video just didn't work with the GK-3/GR55 or Guitar Midi 2, both in terms of lag time as well as missed notes.
My recollection is that the EH pedal works better for chords but I really need to try it again.
Originally Posted by john_a
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The key to getting good chord tones with the SY is to avoid second intervals and the likes - clear tone separation helps the unit
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that's not particularly hopeful since i love seconds in my chord voicings! But i've noticed even with 4th voicings it struggles Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
The key to getting good chord tones with the SY is to avoid second intervals and the likes - clear tone separation helps the unit
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Hehe, conceded. Definitely is more fun to play close harmonies.
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Got another question for you. How do I set it up so that I can route the thru-guitar-signal-only to my ax8 and the synth-signal-only through a separate output? Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
Once I set the mix control per your suggestion, I always get the guitar/synth mix going to all outputs so if I want to run the synth out directly to a speaker, I end up with raw guitar through that output too.
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Have you tried using the sub output? I believe you can set a sub output as an "effect" on either master or on the bypass channel, which might rout the dry signal to sub out?
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tried that but when I bypass the synth, i get no output on the sub bus Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
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do more...... Originally Posted by jzucker
too dissonant for you guys?
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Me likey
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Wanted to give an update on this now that I've had it for a couple weeks. I'm downgrading my initial assessment of it to 2.5 (out of 5) stars.
I still think it's a cool tool but the sounds are very limited compared to the VG99 and of course the pure synths they have out such as the GR33 / GR55 but the supposed strength of the unit - poliphony - turns out to be it's biggest weakness. Basically, it's horrible for chords. It seems to distort them in such a way as to basically render it useless for playing anything other than 5ths or octaves.
Also, the GR300 / metheny inspired sound really is toy-like compared to the VG99 and several other of their synth products. It's also toy-like compared to the EH products though from what I've heard, the EH synth pedals are extremely poorly made.
Right now, I'm trying not to spend more money on gear so I'm planning on holding onto it and it's still inspiring to play through and allows me to do some breckeresque stuff that doesn't work with raw archtop guitar but I wanted to post this followup just to let folks know....
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On TPG you asked about running the synth directly to a speaker to avoid running it through the AX8 cab modeling. I posted a simple way to run it through the AX8 while avoiding the modeling. Are you asking a different question here? Originally Posted by jzucker
Danny W.
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I'm not sure I saw that. I ended up using an A/B switch to accomplish that. Originally Posted by Danny W.
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Connect the synth to In 2 and Out 2 on the AX8. Put an FXL block in a separate row on any of your AX8 presets and cable it up to skip any of the effects and/or modeling. Takes about two minutes. You can then use scenes or IA's to select the synth or guitar or both. Originally Posted by jzucker
Danny W.
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