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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Like a 175 with a tone pot that works? ;-)
    And without QC issues, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirenius
    And without QC issues, as well.
    My '68 has also has questionable QC, but we call it 'vintage vibe.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirenius
    thank you! Ah well, why spam the forum with a seperate post. So yes, the PM is starting to settle in. Here are some pictures! This is a gorgeous instrument that played so well just from the shelf. It's a 1997 PM-100 that belonged to a collector and showed up in my local music store. To me, it's in perfect condition - I will have my "usual suspect" check the setup next week and maybe get it to play even better.

    What else to say? In November, I wanted to set out for a cheap guitar that I could take out for teaching. Thus, I gave a lot of thought to different guitars and tried quite a few. In the end, I decided on this one used, as it offered a lot more than the competition (I know, unfair - as this sold for more than 2.5k € new...). I'm as happy, as I could possibly be. When I picked up my first proper "jazz guitar" in 2005, I actually wanted this one but let people nudge me towards an Ibanez GB. (also a beautiful instrument, but I was always just a little curious about this one, too!) So yes, got to play some more and open a second post for what I bought for Christmas... :-D

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    I had a GB10 a long time ago that met an unfortunate end. That was a great guitar and I was so young that I don’t know how objectively I’m remembering it but I think I like the PM100 more. It is interesting to see the differences in both color and wood between guitars. Mine is a darker blonde and the wood is fancier, hard to describe but the wood is kind of 3D. I like the grain on yours though - I prefer plainer woods that aren’t 3D because they look more classic to me. I’m wondering if it is a difference in production over the years they made them because if you image search the guitar you can see some clear differences between lighter and darker blondes and differences in the wood grain. Mine is a 2000 so I wonder if the mid/late PM100s were darker but the variation of wood grain is harder to put my finger on since there is a lot of variation.

    Enjoy - it’s a fantastic guitar and I could easily only use that guitar if I had to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    My '68 has also has questionable QC, but we call it 'vintage vibe.'
    I didn‘t mean to generalize. I was just underwhelmed by the two ES175s I played at the store in direct comparison to the Ibanez and in relation to the attached price tag. I‘d love me some of that vintage vibe as well, if someone offered me the respective instrument.


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    Speaking of vintage, I have a question if anyone knows the answer. I know that his signature model, at least his personal first one he plays all the time is modeled after his ‘59 es-175. The production model is too but I’m wondering if 175s from that time have the same neck as the PM100. Someone told me once that they played another ‘59 175 and the neck felt identical to his PM100. I haven’t played any 175s that old but I’ve never played a 175 that has a neck that is that thin. It is bordering on too thin but it is really the sweet spot for me since it is not a chunky neck but it isn’t quite too thin like some of Ibanez’s artcore necks. I have heard that when he was playing the PM100 often like around when 99>00 came out that it was identical to production models so I would assume that the necks there are the same but I could never verify if Gibson was making necks like that back then. If no one knows I will probably just make a thread about it because I have wondered that since getting mine - it is really a great neck.


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    Great buy, Zirenius! Difficult to tell from pics, but the fretwork looks perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcb
    Great buy, Zirenius! Difficult to tell from pics, but the fretwork looks perfect.
    It is. I am still taking it to my local tech tomorrow to check out the setup and discuss any concerns or ideas he might have.

    I have to say, this guitar is exceeding all espectations. Really inspiring to play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirenius
    I didn‘t mean to generalize. I was just underwhelmed by the two ES175s I played at the store in direct comparison to the Ibanez and in relation to the attached price tag. I‘d love me some of that vintage vibe as well, if someone offered me the respective instrument.


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    Oh yeah, I wouldn't buy a new one. What's the point?

    Ibanez though - I'd tour with that. Solid.

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    BeBob,
    Thanks for posting, this has been my experience with the Epi Broadway as well. I have big hands but still find the neck profile comfortable. In fact I just bought a 27yr old Peerless-made B'Way a few days ago, a terrific guitar from any practical standpoint although I find myself once again swept up in the dreaded 'upgrade vortex.' Here's what happens.
    I got this guitar at a great deal, a steal really. The Epi pu's are ok but def not great, so the first thing I did was upgrade the to Duncan '59s. I figured as long as I'm in there I might just as well upgrade the wiring harness and pots. By the way when I say 'I' I really mean Gabe-the-luthier- guitar-repair guy.
    Some of the frets show some wear ( this guitar has been played ) and I'm beginning to think re-fret. See where this is going ?
    Save yourselves, the gravity of the vortex is strong.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeBob
    If you're familiar with the Epi Broadway then you'll understand the Emperor Regent. Same guitar, difference is two set-in pups on the Broadway, one neck mounted floater on the Emperor Regent. The Broadway is still in production but the Emperor Regent has been discontinued. Either one would make a good backup guitar, IMO.

    Both Epis have thin D shaped necks. The necks on the D'Angelico EXL-1 are much heftier D shapes, almost a C shape, and feel very full in comparison to the thin feel of the Epis. I own both the Emperor Regent and the EXL-1 and I find the EXL-1 easier to play because my hand cramps on thin necks. But I think that the Epi has a significantly woodier tone than the D'Angelico so I refuse to let mine go. The D'A top sounds a bit thicker and stiffer to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricfactory
    BeBob,
    Thanks for posting, this has been my experience with the Epi Broadway as well. I have big hands but still find the neck profile comfortable. In fact I just bought a 27yr old Peerless-made B'Way a few days ago, a terrific guitar from any practical standpoint although I find myself once again swept up in the dreaded 'upgrade vortex.' Here's what happens.
    I got this guitar at a great deal, a steal really. The Epi pu's are ok but def not great, so the first thing I did was upgrade the to Duncan '59s. I figured as long as I'm in there I might just as well upgrade the wiring harness and pots. By the way when I say 'I' I really mean Gabe-the-luthier- guitar-repair guy.
    Some of the frets show some wear ( this guitar has been played ) and I'm beginning to think re-fret. See where this is going ?
    Save yourselves, the gravity of the vortex is strong.
    I think sometimes you have to plan on that though - unless it is an Elitist I would always plan on upgrading the electronics and pickups of an Epiphone since it can be a guitar with a potential that is not realized due to them skimping on those parts. That’s one thing I like about Ibanez because their Japanese and other higher and guitars are good to go, but I also like fiddling with squeezing tone out of upgrades because that is a fun process (to me).


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