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Originally Posted by KirkP
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07-01-2017 01:54 AM
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Jazzbow I have never heard of that David Sanborn show. Being backed by Sanborn and Deborah Harry, well that would be any frontman's fantasy in the 80's. (Maybe Phil Collins on drums...)
Pere Ubu and Captain Beefheart are some seriously weird but interesting groups that I listened to back in the day. Never saw them live however.
You must have a thing for rock groups fronted by eccentric white guys with movement disorders? Have you ever heard of the Talking Heads?
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Hey jazzbow for those of us who don't know music about new guitar heroes who are those players in the first 2 pics. Captain Beefheart and Pere ubu are mainstays I've known since teens. 34 now.
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The Graph looks like a Gibson headstock. I prefer a Heritage Headstock.
Originally Posted by Greentone
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
Ed Sheeran, not my cup of tea but the kids like him!
Matt Bellamy, heavy pop riffer.
Both guys have signature guitars awarded during their lifetime. The Matt Bellamy guitar was built by Manson in the UK but is now offered by Cort. The Manson one comes with much trickery...
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The internet has removed geographical barriers and people are exposed to way more musical content. Fortunately there are still kids playing guitar but they compete with every other style of music (non-guitar) out there.
I think we can safely say that electric guitar music is not dead it just has to compete with so many more styles of music and instrumentation. I think we'll be ok if kids like this keep it alive:
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Guitar based music is not dead it just smells funny
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Ah thanks jazzbow, but I think I'll stick with stuff like Captain Beefheart, per ubu, and maybe some Mingus or Zappa since you guys have been dropping the smells funny quote.
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Everything is cyclical and electric guitar has been in the limelight for about 50 years. Guitar was something tied to the Baby Boomers and as they are fading the guitar is going with it. Time for guitar to fade into the background for awhile so it can return one day.
Thinking about all the music I see from my viewpoint is the new thing isn't one instrument but multi-instrumentalist with heavy dose of audio tech skills. Then some a flair for video/performance art.
As Ike and Tina Turner sang... "the big wheel keeps on turnin'"
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I love this stuff!! Originally Posted by MacGringo
Check out Angus Young Jr. on bass breakdown (~2:50) and then he does an extended solo ~4 min in..
Not yer standard 3 chord metal song, but instead, they actually put some time into this song.
Saving the Guitar... Well done youth of Australia...It's your turn America... Get er done!
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Yep, and that 17 year old female guitarist is blowing out Steve Cropper riffs. Well done indeed. Originally Posted by Papawooly
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She's great!!! Originally Posted by MacGringo
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It seems to me the Internet/Digital/Information Age is just starting to really come into it's own and it's unexpected consequences are coming to the fore with the Millennials.
We now have instant access to so much. It's a great thing. When I was a kid, I had 1 musician friend in my daily circle, plus a couple of peripherals.. That's it. We traveled to orchestras and stuff, so the circle expanded, but in terms of who I was talking two ever day, that was it.
Today, I can have "conversations" with you guys here every day. Of course, we have YouTube and all the multimedia, etc to make it a much richer experience then it ever was when I was just BSing in high school!
I think this creates and strengthens special interest groups. Let's admit it, Jazz is a sliver of the music scene and jazz guitarists are a sliver of the guitar scene. Much smaller than ever before and unfortunately, getting smaller year by year. We'll be in museums soon.
But I'd say the jazz guitar community is stronger than ever before. The number of people actively pursuing the craft is probably more than ever before and I'd venture to say there are more good players then ever.
Quality guitars are more plentiful, there are more hand-made instruments of outstanding quality at relatively cheaper prices then ever.
It's a great time to be a jazz guitarist! But, you need a day job/wedding band (even those are going away) and have to be content to play for your fellow guitarists. (Once in a while a pianist may show up. Sax and bass players are cool, though.
I heard a jazz guitarist is a guy who puts
a $5,000 guitar
into a $500 car
to go to a $50 gig.
Sadly, I think even this is outdated. I lived that life in the 90s and 2000s, after that it became untenable. there just aren't that many $50 gigs anymore.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...
But we do it for the love of it. That will never change.
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I read that article a while ago, and my takeaway was that the President of Gibson may be an experienced, savvy and intelligent businessman, but as a musician he's an amateur idiot.
When an instrument maker becomes a huge entity mostly interested in sales, dividends and market share, then the instruments they produce will be products of that filter. Producing truly wonderful, magical instruments will only be as important as it needs to be to maintain appearances. When I see multi-thousand dollar instruments with fret edges like a sawblade I know that there factors influencing production that have nothing to do with playing.
What is dying is a market that catered to millions of teenage, wannabe rockstars. I'm completely fine with that. I'm also fine that the once robustness of that market has led to modern, inexpensive Asian-made guitars that, compared to the 'starter' guitars of 50 years ago, are of amazing quality. My first guitars were a Danelectro that, despite it's current vintage 'panache' and inflated nostalgia-based price tag, was literally garbage made of garbage; and a Stella acoustic that was also complete junk. The current iterations of those 'starter' guitars today are decent, playable instruments.
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I'm doing my best to keep it alive.
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what I do find interesting is there's no shortage of young jazz piano players...interesting
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HJ's money may have rescued Gibson in the 80s (with a big assist from Slash), but his focus on the bottom-line is in my mind damaging the company's medium-term viability. His unreasonable dealership requirements ($100,000/year/outlet) have tied him to GC in brick-and-mortar, while his penny-pinching has seen QC corners cut wholeheartedly. And there are indications that he's looking to migrate Gibson's sales to online. With this sort of QC that I've seen over the last 10 years, I can say I would never buy a Gibson I hadn't played first. Originally Posted by Rhythmisking
I'd buy a new Gibson if I could play it and ascertain the QC is right, the feel is right, and the price is right. But unfortunately two of those three qualities are too often lacking.
Mind you, I'm talking Nashville standard output, not Memphis custom shop. But if I'm throwing down two large on a guitar, it had better be righteous. PRS can manage that. Why can't Gibson?
That's right -- because the focus is on sales YTD vs LY, and not making each customer happy.Last edited by Thumpalumpacus; 08-02-2017 at 10:58 PM.
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I think there is also a increase in wind, brass, and upright bass. Not to mention increase in woman in Jazz especially on drums and upright bass. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
what I do find interesting is there's no shortage of young jazz piano players...interesting
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Have you ever heard Henry J Gibson's President play guitar? Lucky You!
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I understand the point you are making but Ed Sheehan is an unfortunate example. Sure he has a signature guitar (and shoes,shirts etc if his marketing boys are in the zone) but he basically holds it and strums a few chords.Everything is is produced by his myriad of effects,loops,samples and beats activated by him stamping on what must be one of the largest electronic stomp boxes in existence. So really he is more a sound/sample creator rather than guitarist.
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
what I do find interesting is there's no shortage of young jazz piano players...interesting
Yes intriguing, 2b there do not appear to be numbers of young Jazz pianists appearing
on this side of the pond. Maybe in the US there are more & better Jazz Piano Tutors
around? I gave it a try for a while with a home Tutor ( Pro player ) but failed
miserably. Although there is no problem with Left and Right hand co-ordination
when playing Guitar. I found Left hand on piano very difficult. So much so that my
young Grand daughter visited and played one of my "Nemesis" pieces easily.
She inherited the Yamaha PF1000 immediately
My late guitar tutor , with a Masters Degree achieved in Jazz referred to the Piano
as the King of instruments ., particular favourites : Walter Norris, Michael Petrucciani
and Bill Evans for starters.
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