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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Is it seriously possible in such a thread not to here prominently mentioned the universally reviled POLYTONE DISTORTION?

    But something require to be HEARD to be BELIEVED.

    Listen, and Believe!

    i wonder who'd win in a fight between the polytone distortion and the jc120 distortion.

    with tone like that, you'll give this guy a run for his money:

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    There is no such thing as clear rubber tubing. Rubber isn't transparent. That's silicone tubing, and it's a great invention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    There is no such thing as clear rubber tubing. Rubber isn't transparent. That's silicone tubing, and it's a great invention.
    The tubing might actually be the greatest thing about the pedal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Is it seriously possible in such a thread not to here prominently mentioned the universally reviled POLYTONE DISTORTION?

    But something require to be HEARD to be BELIEVED.

    Listen, and Believe!

    Thank you? For THAT.

    Least-loved guitar effects?


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    In jazz anyway; all of them? except for reverb or echo perhaps? I wish Jim Hall didn't use pedals - he didn't need them.
    Agree regarding that 'direct to board' sound that many guys had in the 70's - it is a bit blah in my opinion. Les Paul was the only guy that sounded good going straight to a desk, and that's because he designed an entire instrument around that purpose.

    I really dislike a lot of the fusion-y sounds. Real compressed sounding... but I don't really get fusion to be honest.. it's not my thing.

  7. #81

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    Hands-down, phaser.

  8. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Is it seriously possible in such a thread not to here prominently mentioned the universally reviled POLYTONE DISTORTION?

    But something require to be HEARD to be BELIEVED.

    Listen, and Believe!


    Add a few Pete Townsend windmills and you'd have something marketable.

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    What a hoot ...

    Stumbling fingers still need love ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggy
    ...with any effect or combination of them, the guitar becomes a different instrument, or rather that the instrument then is the guitar and effects combination. So one has to play in a manner appropriate to the new instrument/sound.
    With the exception of ring modulation (which I really hate) I really like effects, but they all have a learning curve. Some effects are more useful, musical than others. I have a Pigtronix Tremvelope, which is a tremolo with an envelope control option. Set and used properly it can be very expressive like a woodwind player using vibrato. It really becomes an extension of the electric mandolin I play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guy8string
    With the exception of ring modulation (which I really hate) I really like effects, but they all have a learning curve. Some effects are more useful, musical than others. I have a Pigtronix Tremvelope, which is a tremolo with an envelope control option. Set and used properly it can be very expressive like a woodwind player using vibrato. It really becomes an extension of the electric mandolin I play.
    There absolutely is a learning curve - it's a different sound, and I find that seems to demand a different approach to what I play. Even just a bit of chorus and delay (yes I like that) and for me the notes seem to sustain and hang in the air in a different way, and I play differently in response. Using overdrive or distortion really changes things - fast bebop-ish stuff with a strong pick attack might not work too well, for example, or at least that's how I find it.

    Interesting about the Pigtronix Tremvelope.

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    Fuzz pedals, because there are very few guitarists I’ve heard who can handle them in a musical and tasteful way. ”Purple Haze” and ”Reelin' In The Years” are the only songs I can think of with great fuzz sounds. Carlos Santana’s early fuzz tone can also get my approval.

    Otherwise, I can say goodbye to fuzz pedals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbmaj7#5#9
    Fuzz pedals, because there are very few guitarists I’ve heard who can handle them in a musical and tasteful way. ”Purple Haze” and ”Reelin' In The Years” are the only songs I can think of with great fuzz sounds. Carlos Santana’s early fuzz tone can also get my approval.

    Otherwise, I can say goodbye to fuzz pedals...
    That is interesting to me because when I was exploring pedals I found a good fuzz pedal easier to get along with than Overdrive or Distortion. I have no idea why. But also, I must admit, my pedalboard days are over. I sold all my pedals a year ago. Now I'm all about guitar-cable-amp with a reverb pedal if needed.

    I think my favorite fuzz sounds are Smashing Pumpkins first two albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longways to Go
    That is interesting to me because when I was exploring pedals I found a good fuzz pedal easier to get along with than Overdrive or Distortion. I have no idea why. But also, I must admit, my pedalboard days are over. I sold all my pedals a year ago. Now I'm all about guitar-cable-amp with a reverb pedal if needed.

    I think my favorite fuzz sounds are Smashing Pumpkins first two albums.
    Yes, distortion can also sound very bad. Mid-scooped heavy metal distortion is really horrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbmaj7#5#9
    Fuzz pedals, because there are very few guitarists I’ve heard who can handle them in a musical and tasteful way. ”Purple Haze” and ”Reelin' In The Years” are the only songs I can think of with great fuzz sounds. Carlos Santana’s early fuzz tone can also get my approval.

    Otherwise, I can say goodbye to fuzz pedals...
    David Gilmour - Time, Echoes, Comfortably Numb, On the turning away, .... none of those?

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    Dirty Robot?



    Who am I kidding? I'd love goofin off with dis pedal!

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    Google Image Result for https://media1.giphy.com/media/dDjs3fIecucSI/giphy.gif

    ...there *are* natural effects worse than pedals can produce.

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    I don't use any effects so it is not something I think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobomov
    80s Chorus stuff!
    That's a fun thread !

    Would there be a poll, chorus would probably be well ahead, especially the 80's one in jazz /fusion, Mike Stern, Frank Gambale, ... maybe only Sco on Electric Outlet and Still Warm seems to dial it OK.

    Otherwise, just hearing a bit instantly throws horrid memories of REH's Franck Gambale's astonishing haircuts and shirts (he looks so much better now and is a great guitarist and teacher imho)

    Somehow, as far as 80's chorus goes, pop/rock did better, i think, thanks to this T.C. Electronics "of Denmark" square chorus pedal. Songs like Police's "Walking on the moon" or Martha and the Muffins' "Echo Beach" have guitars with quite a heavy dose of chorus but it's pleasing to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuoham
    That's a fun thread !

    Would there be a poll, chorus would probably be well ahead, especially the 80's one in jazz /fusion, Mike Stern, Frank Gambale, ... maybe only Sco on Electric Outlet and Still Warm seems to dial it OK.

    Otherwise, just hearing a bit instantly throws horrid memories of REH's Franck Gambale's astonishing haircuts and shirts (he looks so much better now and is a great guitarist and teacher imho)

    Somehow, as far as 80's chorus goes, pop/rock did better, i think, thanks to this T.C. Electronics "of Denmark" square chorus pedal. Songs like Police's "Walking on the moon" or Martha and the Muffins' "Echo Beach" have guitars with quite a heavy dose of chorus but it's pleasing to my ears.

    Least-loved guitar effects?-481f2f09ec11419bab893316fa63a2bc-21b001ea6769560d569e52412f022b05-jpg
    Take a look at the ”Cheesy vs natural chorus” thread. There you have a discussion about chorus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank67
    David Gilmour - Time, Echoes, Comfortably Numb, On the turning away, .... none of those?
    They’re really good, but it doesn’t sound like true fuzz effects to my ears. The sounds on those tracks reminds me more of distorted Marshall amps than fuzz pedals.

    I’m not in any way a fan of Marshall amps, but they sounds much better than fuzz pedals. In my opinion, amp distortion sounds pleasing and smooth. Not everytime, like I said before, but generally amp distortion sounds more natural than pedal distortion. Fuzz pedals just reminds me of barbed wire, there’s nothing nice at all. But like everything else in this world, there are exceptions in this case too.
    Last edited by Bbmaj7#5#9; 08-09-2019 at 02:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Dirty Robot?



    Who am I kidding? I'd love goofin off with dis pedal!
    Hahahahaha, that was so funny!

    Imagine Jim Hall with the sounds you’ll hear at 0:36 and 3:53...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbmaj7#5#9
    Hahahahaha, that was so funny!

    Imagine Jim Hall with the sounds you’ll hear at 0:36 and 3:53...
    Jim Hall plays the music of Gary Numan? One of his lesser known releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Jim Hall plays the music of Gary Numan? One of his lesser known releases.
    Haha, brilliant!

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    - wah-wah is the absolute winner for me.
    - tooo much reverb on clear sound, like the player in the other end in a cave
    (- anything what today's music industry applies on vocal)