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I have a Cube 60. Used to have a Cube 30. The Cube 60 is much better than the Cube 30 in my opinion. I guess I'd buy a Cube 80x if I didn't have the Cube 60 - built in tuner and separate reverb/delay would be nice, and supposedly the Acoustic model is better - but I have absolutely no interest in 'upgrading'. One neat thing about the Cube 60 (and not the Cube 80x as far as I know) is the Tuner Out jack; it's straight out from the input jack, so you can use it to drive another amp as if you were plugged into it directly. Actually, I haven't tried it, but I have conjectured about running 2 Cube 60s simultaneously that way!
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07-23-2009 09:56 AM
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Would that be into the guitar jack socket,or am I being dumb.
Originally Posted by Tom Karol
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No problem. The Owner's Manual (probably still available on the RolandUS Website - if not I can email it to you) has a schematic diagram that shows the tuner-out jack as a direct feed from the input jack before the signal even goes into the amp. To me, that indicates that you could simply plug a standard guitar cable into the tuner-out jack and plug the other end into the instrument input jack of a second amplifier. As far as the second amp would 'know', the guitar would be directly plugged into it as if the Cube 60 wasn't even there! At least that's what I think.
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A Polytone' owner told me it is a high fidelity amp until 4 kHz, then the speaker acts as a high order lowpass. I think I can have a similar behaviour with a JC-like amplifier with a normal 12" speaker. Originally Posted by NSJ
On the Henriksen side, my question is: 10 kHz is more or less the 15th harmonic of a E, first string, 12th fret! Typically high order harmonics are 20 to 40 dB lower than low order ones with the tone control at 10. So, it's very hard for me to understand the mean of a 5 band equalizer, with the 5th band at 10 kHz, in an (jazz) guitar amplifier: there is any significant 10 kHz component coming out from the guitar!
Then I bougth the Cube 60 for the price and for the (useful) passband chracteristics. And kept a JTM 60 Marshall for the Stratocaster only.
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The open E (1st string) has a frequency of 336hz. The 12th fret harmonic is an octave above this, or 672hz. It doesn't affect the validity of your question, however. Originally Posted by pineapple
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As an aside, has anyone replaced the stock speaker in a Cube 60? I'm thinking a Weber 'Michigan' (EV SRO clone) might sound great.
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Synopsis of a another thread: It seems like it's probably not worth it; plus you might have to modify the baffle in some way.
Last edited by Dirk; 04-08-2020 at 06:47 AM.
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Want to "re-open" this thread to see how the 80x has been accepted and if it's proving out to be an "upgrade" from the Cube 60.
Want to get either one but pending what forum you visit or listen to, it seemed to me the Cube 60 was a better choice.
My main pref was to use the JC 120 setting (predominantly) but not even care about the 2nd channel (as much). But, it appears that the 80x's JC sound was 'thinner' and 'more tranny-like' compared to the 60 and ultimately compared to the 'real McCoy' (JC 120).
Did come across one User who explained the EQ can't be setup the same as on a Cube 60 but the 80x's was to be used in such a way to start from "0" on the base, mid, treble and work slowly "outwardly" which I'd be fine with. Don't need to "see" the standard EQ settings on my amp. Main thing is the quality of sound even if that means the base and mids are set to "0" (if that happens to be the case).
So, looking for new 80x users AND older Cube 60 users to chime in for their thoughts.
Thanx (in advance).
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I should have my 80x tomorrow and I can give an honest comparison then.
I have never owned but played through a JC so I am very marginally familiar with the tone. I can say this, having played through the JC tone with no expectations of it because of lack of experience with a JC, the tone in it is very good IMO. I have a Vox here and I will be A/B'ing that so I can give an idea of how close the Vox model is to the real thing.
I have no experience with the 60 so I won't be able to comment there.
I too have heard about the tone setup being different between these two amps. Those who seemed to have real issues with this particular model have gone back armed with this new knowledge and have been, by and large, happy with the amp.
I assume I will be too.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it does seem that the Roland line of Cube amps are becoming a staple in, particularly, the jazz genre due to their good sound and price.
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Here is a video I have been watching that showcases the JC setting on the 80x.
Love the tone he gets.
Check it out:
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I own both the 60 and 80 and a/b them today. I set both amps to the same settings and bypassed reverb and affects. Granted this is a jazz forum I compared the Rfier on the lead channels and of course the clean channels. Also, the bridge pickup of my guitar was used for the whole test.
Gear Used:
2010 Gibson Les Paul 1958 Reissue (I have a tube amp as well)
Monster Cable
and of course the Roland Cube 60 & 80x
RFier:
60: Chunky/thick with lots of lowend. Huge tone.
80: Trying to be thick and chunky but sounds on the thin side, and rather cheap sounding.
Clean:
60: Smooth, chimey, and bright.
80: Extra smooth, little chime, not so bright.
I don't know if they revoiced these amps but after a/bing for an hour or 2 I decided I prefered the 60 overall. I considered the fact the 60 was older and broken in (speaker) versus the new 80x but am unwilling to get rid of the 60 only to find out that the sound doesn't change.Last edited by GuitarGuy503; 08-20-2010 at 03:38 PM.
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This is where I've heard/read that the two amps cannot be set at the same EQ settings (for whatever reason I am unsure).
Why Roland decided to do re-design the EQ parameters from the 60 is beyond me. One user stated that it actually gave even more variance and options to the sound capabilities with this new design.
If that was the case, that's where maybe Roland should have stated this so that users don't go running in the opposite direction and totally "diss" the 80x altogether.
However, that's what I was hoping to find out if indeed that same sounds could be obtained via differenct EQ settings if not even a better quality sound.
I think most people get a Cube primarily for the JC setting. All the other settings are bonuses if they work and sound well.
Me, I'd like to get a 60 or 80 because of the JC setting. I have a Vox Tonelab LE and just love the sound and 'feel' when you play it. However, I don't play "out" and it's not amplified. I'm just a 'bedroom' player and just play along with my son.
I have played thru a JC 120 and it's just wonderful. I was thinking I would keep my TLLE and play thru it to give me all the tone variations I'd ever want BUT the versitility of a grab n go with a 60 or 80x is just not there.
So, if I can get a warm n fuzzy that a 60 or 80x can get me what I'm after, then I'll go that route instead of the JC 120 and the TLLE. I'm interested in the 80x first but maybe the 60 is the way to go.
Hope to hear more on the 60 vs 80x debate !
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My understanding is just what is stated: you can't compare the 60 to the 80x as though they are the same amp with a 20w more or less power.
I can't tell you how many user reviews I have read where they had already figured out you had to re-EQ going to the 80x or they had an initial post absolutely dogging the 80x only to come back at a later date after readjusting the EQ saying that they absolutely love it.
From what it sounds like, you'd be good to go with either after some EQ work. I have heard some absolutely wonderful tones from the 80x and that is what prompted me to get the one I have sitting at my feet.
If its for bedroom playing and you can save a few bucks with the 60, I'd do that personally.Last edited by barrymclark; 08-20-2010 at 04:13 PM.
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Got the 80x home.
Immediate impression: JC, Blackface, British Stack and Metal are my main amp types. The rest... take it or leave it. I agree with the person that said the Rectifier setting is a bit thin or plasticy. Then again, I have never been big on Boogie.
The JC is that wonderful buttery jazz tone that I like. Clean and clear as crystal.
The Blackface I am able to quickly call up some very Setzer-y type tones.
The British Stack: Arena rock all day.
The Metal: a model of the 5150 amp. I owned one of these. Not bad!
Tomorrow when everyone is awake, I will play with some volume to see how it reacts then.
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Thanx Barrymclarke for your comments.
Found this on U tube:
Gives you an approach on how to voice the 80x with your guitar. Notice he starts with all the EQ's starting at "0".
Also, gives a great tip on setting up your tone by using the onboard looper and then walking around the room to check your sound out.
Great little piece for all 80x users.
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I've got the 60 and the 80. I've gone insane trying to decide which one to sell. If only someone out there (UK) would make me an offer on either one, I'd be cured at last!
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I took the above things into consideration and gave the 80x another shot with different settings eqwise and still found the amp to be very thin, tinny, and cheap sounding no matter how the eq is set. The 60 has a fuller, thicker, much better tone IMO. I have a buyer for the 80x and am confident in my decision. My Cube 60 stays and the 80x is to be sold. I am quite disappointed as I really wanted the extra features of the 80x. Play before you buy is all I have to say. If you can't play the 80x before you buy you are probably better off sticking with your Cube 60 if you have "upgrading" in mind as I did.
Last edited by GuitarGuy503; 08-26-2010 at 11:37 AM.
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I have a Cube 80x. I am still experimenting with settings and like most of what I hear so far. I have figured out that I can record through it to my computer whilst running a separate line out to another amp to hear what I am playing as I record.
I have never heard a Cube 60, which is probably a blessing in disguise as I have no angst about missing whatever sound benefits the 60 has over the 80. So I am happy with my 80, I can get a nice variety of tone with a bit of chorus or tremolo or delay etc. It is good enough to sit beside my Laney LC30.
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The thing I didn't like about the 80x in comparison to the 60, was that the 80x for me surpassed the size and weight of a grab & go amp. The 60 is fairly compact and the 80x isn't much lighter than my tube amps. I think both the 80x and 60 sound great though. And the added Fender voice/model (Deluxe Reverb in addition to Twin Reverb) on the 80x is cool. The 80x does have a lot of power, but it's more than some of us will need for jazz depending on your band size and where you play.
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Well, it turns out that the buyer I had for the 80x didn't workout. Having said that, If anyone here is interested in the 80x I would be willing to possibly sell it for 300.00 shipped (within the U.S.). I have solid Ebay feedback you can refer to (also GuitarGuy503). I'm in Portland OR. Everyones taste in gear is different so just because I don't dig the 80x doesn't mean you won't.
Last edited by GuitarGuy503; 08-29-2010 at 06:56 AM.
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Had an 80x for 12 months now. A great versatile amp with the benefit of a beautiful clean channel as well as the amp model options. Although an 80 watter it is quite possible to play at very low "bedroom" levels but with the benefit of sounding clearer than lower powered/smaller speaker amps.In terms of weight I suggest it is no heavier than any comparable well made amp with a 12 inch speaker. At last I have an amp where I am not constantly looking over my shoulder to see if there is anything better. Have not seen the spec of the 80XL yet but I assume it is only a tweak on what is already a great all round amp.
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I am looking for an amp to replace my egnater rebel 30 combo. It's way too much amp for me as I am not a professional musician. Also looking or something versatile primarily for home use and jamming with friends. There i a new roland 60 at a local music store that I could get for a good price. How does this compare with the 80? Is the 80 much better and worth the extra bucks?
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IMO the preset amp modelling on the 60 is more 'Rock' taste where the 80 is more 'Metal!'
But....
The 80 has a built in looper which is a great tool for improving solo's.
Cash is king so 60 + looper pedal = lots $
Whereas 80/extras = saved $
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Well, not looking for either rock or metal, but more blues and jazz. Any thoughts on that? Originally Posted by jazzbow
Thanks!
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I played both of them, but not at the same time. I was just using the JC clean channel and the blackface model, and they sounded similar. The 80 wasn't noticeably louder -- I've read that some people feel the 60 has more clean head room while the 80 get gainier.
I wasn't impressed with the looper - I thought it was too short, but then I didn't have a foot switch to work it.
I'd go for the 60 if the price is nice because it has all that I need, then I'd get a separate looper pedal I could use in front of any amp.
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