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Some excellent suggestions and thanks to all. Looking like the TC HOF at the moment.
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02-16-2016 01:27 PM
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It has it's detractors, but I'm a big HOF fan.
I've posted this video before, but I think this is a pretty good example of how the HOF turned my Princeton into a Princeton Reverb for this gig. It ain't perfect, but it's a more than passable spring sound.
For jazz, I'm more of a fan of hall and room sounds, which the HOF does well.
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Beside the reverb issue, thanks for the vid. My Dad was a HUGE Cash fan, and I grew up listening to him, it brought back a lot of good memories. Jackson did a GREAT job.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Talking about reverb plus delay You must not forget this gigantic classic:
Tube Replex - Hughes & Kettner
Forget those tiny toys! This unit makes everybody respect You! Or at least Your muscles!
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Wow. This is quite a radical thing to say without any explanation. Originally Posted by feet
Could You please elaborate Your words a bit so we others can decide why should we avoid these famous, innovative and reputable brands (EHX since 1968, TC Electronic since 1976)?
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Originally Posted by GNAPPI
Thanks, he's a bit of a nut, but he's a heck of a lot of fun to play with.
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Thanks for the post, Jeff M. You guys are like Johnny and Luther reincarnated.
Good ad for the reverb as well!
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I very much agree with this, in terms of fidelity, ease of operation and the least coloring of your guitar tone the Neunaber Wet is a fine choice, the very one I'm using now having tried half a dozen, including the HOF.
YMMV.
Originally Posted by Toat
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no. Originally Posted by Herbie
ehx- i had a couple of their pedals fail, and went so far as to contact them and send one back for repair. after they helped themselves to my $30 (?) dollars, (not counting the shipping) the returned my pedal as is and stated nothing was wrong with it. when i reiterated what the problem was, they back pedaled and said that's the way it was supposed to work. they knew what the issue was the entire time, but waited until they had my money (again) to pretend that it wasn't a design flaw and it was my fault. so no thanks. especially since, as far as reverbs go, the current ones just sound better. i still have a few lying around, but don't expect to buy more. build quality isn't that great on their drives, either.
tc electronic- plenty of problems with the footswitches. and since they won't stand behind them, if something goes wrong, you got yourself a cool looking door stop. not sure if this is a recent, behringer related thing, but it is now very much a thing.
i've had mixed results with their stuff myself, but they are always cheap, on sale or available on the used market, so i keep giving them a shot. i've never been completely pleased with anything of theirs that i've tried, but i've always been able to work with/around it and haven't had one go bad yet (though the tuner came close). they're sort of like the town bike; cheap, easy and get the job done, but nothing to really be proud of. i do have a sentry and a new clippy tuner on the way so i hope that works out.
that was some fine luthering up there, but once i found out you used a hof instead of something fancy, i automatically super hated it forever.
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Now I understand Your feelings! Sorry to hear. Originally Posted by feet
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ehx- i had a couple of their pedals fail, and went so far as to contact them and send one back for repair. after they helped themselves to my $30 (?) dollars, (not counting the shipping) the returned my pedal as is and stated nothing was wrong with it. when i reiterated what the problem was, they back pedaled and said that's the way it was supposed to work. they knew what the issue was the entire time, but waited until they had my money (again) to pretend that it wasn't a design flaw and it was my fault. so no thanks. especially since, as far as reverbs go, the current ones just sound better. i still have a few lying around, but don't expect to buy more. build quality isn't that great on their drives, either.
tc electronic- plenty of problems with the footswitches. and since they won't stand behind them, if something goes wrong, you got yourself a cool looking door stop. not sure if this is a recent, behringer related thing, but it is now very much a thing.
i've had mixed results with their stuff myself, but they are always cheap, on sale or available on the used market, so i keep giving them a shot. i've never been completely pleased with anything of theirs that i've tried, but i've always been able to work with/around it and haven't had one go bad yet (though the tuner came close). they're sort of like the town bike; cheap, easy and get the job done, but nothing to really be proud of. i do have a sentry and a new clippy tuner on the way so i hope that works out.
that was some fine luthering up there, but once i found out you used a hof instead of something fancy, i automatically super hated it forever.
I guess that only way to get quality pedals and decent customer service is to buy tiny boutique maker's products... Before their companies grow too big and their quality drops!
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I agree TC quality is NOT what it used to be - I guess being bought by Behringer doesn't help..
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Interesting turn the conversation has taken. I've had a TC Arena reverb pedal for almost three years. It's basically an OEM rebranded HOF with a few settings changed. Other than the spring setting, I like it a lot. I've put thousands of hours on it without a single problem but perhaps things have changed since I bought this.
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The topanga is very bright. It's analog signal path boosts the high frequencies and there is no way to compensate. It actually sounds great with an archtop into a solid state amp but into a tube amp it's shrill unless your amp has a way to reduce the brightness. And because of the high end sheen, it doesn't sound good for overdrive. Too bad because in every other way, it's a great spring reverb pedal.
Originally Posted by neatomic
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my mk one tiny polytune thing is still trucking along, but its always been an inaccurate gimmick, it was just the smallest (and cheapest) tuner around at the time. my alter ego 2 is hanging on, but the tap/strum tempo thing didn't work right out of the box and i never really bothered to address it; its bounced around a few boards and now its used as a secondary noise box (because i can't stand the crazy amount of modulation). but they work
though you don't have too look to far to find someone who hasn't been as fortunate as you or i, or to see what happens should something go wrong. great self defense weapon when placed in a sock.
but i do have a noise gate and clip on tuner on the way, like i mentioned earlier. they were (again) cheap, 20% off and the only things out there that did what they do the way they do it. so once again, the die has been cast. wish me luck. they keep cranking out interesting pedals that are innovative, and useful, if not exactly the cream of the crop. they just worry me a little too much. were i touring/gigging, i'd be more concerned.
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Spaceman Orion is analog and sounds heavenly, but it's $$$$.
Carl Martin also has a SPRING reverb pedal (analog), like the Van-Amps stuff.
Everyone seems to agree as far as pedals go, the best Fender spring emulation to date is the Catalinbread Topanaga. At least for the Fender tank reverb. The Mr Black Deluxe Plus nails the Fender blackface combo reverb.
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Originally Posted by Herbie
I've owned a bunch of both. I've never had issues with TC, but had several with EHX. I won't buy another EHX product. Bad switches, noise, poor customer service. I think EHX "ain't what it used to be." I had the same experience as well- they took my repair fee, returned the pedal untouched and said "it isn't any noisier than it should be"... well, in that case, EHX can keep their noisy pedals.
Regarding the Topanga being "bright"- I've been reading this, and I wanted to ask/let people know: The Topanga has a switchable buffer inside. With the buffer ON, it can make things bright, but shouldn't add any brightness at all with the buffer switched OFF (true bypass).Last edited by ruger9; 02-19-2016 at 08:42 AM.
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Here's a shootout, including the Topanga, showing it doing quite well with dirt:
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a great rack-mounted option from the 90s is the Peavey Valverb. It is a hybrid, tube/solid-state reverb plus tremelo unit in a 19" single rack box. It can be used either between the instrument and amp, or inserted into the amp's effects loop.
Frankly, the quality of the reverb on the Valverb is about as good as the "gold standard"--the 60s Fender Reverb Unit. I own both and would use them interchangeably. The only issue is that Valverbs have gotten expensive in the second-hand market, owing to their quality and scarcity--about $650-700, or so (depending on condition). If you want quality...
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On EHX: I bought a Holy Grail reverb when it first came out. Terribly noisy, then it fried its own power supply. Got full replacement from the local store. Then the replacement power supply failed. Got two more power supplies. Each quickly failed. That's the end of the Holy Grail - and EHX - for me. Not a bad reverb, but not worth the aggravation.
MD
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I use a TC Electronic Nova System at times. I use the reverb when I'm using an amp that doesn't have reverb. If their HOF reverb pedal has the same reverb, then it's a winner.
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This photo showed up in my FB feed today. It's the pedal setup for John Tropea, a truly legendary player from his gig at the Blue Note in Tokyo last night. Given some of what's been said here, I was somewhat surprised to see a TC Electronic, Electro Harmonix and of course a couple of old Boss stalwarts.
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My favorite is my outboard Fender reissue. However, when I want simple just a little ambience, I have a single-knob Hermida that does the trick. I'm a big fan of less is more.
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not to denigrate the products themselves or someone's taste, but it could be that those pedals are affordable, tonally solid, and easily sourced all over the world at a moment's notice; standbys that most pros are either already familiar with or could easily conjure up usable sounds. in most cases, they just work. but plenty of guys trot out boss pedal boards on the road and keep the racks and piles of boutique/vintage stuff at home or in the studio. Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
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It could be almost anything. It could even be that (as my wife says about me) Tropea is "spending impaired". But mostly it was ironic timing. I'm not into using a lot of effects so I don't look at a lot of pedal boards. I suddenly get sent a photo from a player who I really like and he's using all the same retail crap that we were just talking about here. On the other hand, I noticed in the other photo that he posted that he didn't take his L5 to Tokyo so maybe he's got a "cheap rig" that he takes on his travels. Originally Posted by feet
BTW, I also like Dominic Miller and he uses mostly Boss gear for all his live playing and somehow managed to pull of what may be my favorite live electric tone ever.
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I think it's quite simple.
Boss pedals are reliable pedals and sound good. They have a certain 80s flavour and have gone out of fashion in the forums because so many boutique pedals have come by but for pros they are certainly something to consider.
As for EHX and TC - they may not have the best QC around but it's not like their pedals fail all the time.
Also for all 3 brands you can replace a pedal anywhere in the world pretty fast.
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