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Just wondering what kind of strings people are using on these guitars.
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02-07-2016 11:42 AM
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I'm trying the daddairo polished rounds nylon right now, and like every other polished string I've tried, they suck. The composite G is great though.
ill probably go back to good old savarez hard tension next time, or regular pro arte hard tension.
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Someone had recommended LaBella 900 Gold Polished to reduce squeaks. I have them but did not get around to putting them on, I will report when it happens.
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Funny. I like the D'Addario polished bass strings, but I use Aquila nylogut trebles. I used to use LaBella gut sets, but they have become too costly.
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I use LaBella 412P. Same strings as Gene Bertoncini uses.
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I recently switched to Savarez Red Card High Tension and really, really like them. These are on my nylon arch top. I keep Hannabach on my beater classical.
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D'Addario lightly polished basses, normal tension, with Seaguar Premier fluorocarbon trebles 80/60/40lb that balance the normal tension basses perfectly. The lower tension strings eliminate the potential for the odd string buzzing off a fret during a barre or an awkward voicing.
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I saw that in an earlier thread, but I am having difficulty locating a 412P set or any related documents.
Originally Posted by Cunamara
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There's a reason for that.... They are actually 413P- I recalled the designation incorrectly.
https://www.stringsbymail.com/classi...3p-studio-211/
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I'll give them a shot. These D'addairo are awful. Sticky feeling and they turned the once surprisingly pleasant unamplied tone of my Godin grand concert (which was great for practice) into cardboard.
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I just got off the phone with the luthier, I will see later this week for set up, and general check up on a new guitar.
He told me has found the D'addario Pro-Arte Nylon - Extra Hard Tension to be good for players who like low action that are used to playing steel string guitars. (He did say he has them in his regular stock.)
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The coated EXP D'Addario nylons are good on electo-acoustics; less squeak, last forever. Gauge is dependent on guitar, player, attack, etc.
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+1 on the Pro Arte Hard Tension... I'm not a classical player, but I love nylon string, fingers and pick... haven't tried a lot of different brands, but the hard tension respond better to a pick, don't feel as mushy. I use them on all 3 of the nylons I have: Godin Multiac SA, Yamaha silent (can't recall which model, the next to newest) and Takamine CD132SC.
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I'm going to keep them on a little longer and see. Right now they don't "feel" like nylon strings, and I HATE that. They do sound good though, amplified. Originally Posted by ronjazz
Last edited by mr. beaumont; 02-08-2016 at 11:09 PM.
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I used to own an RN-6 but at the time I couldn't bond with it so I traded it off for another electric. That said, I found hard or extra hard tension to sound better with that guitar. Fast forward a number of years and I have a much better ear for nylon strings. Mostly because I decided to focus on classical technique. My "crossover" guitar is a Yamaha 1200R and while it has a dull unplugged sound it sounds great amplified. For that guitar I found D'Addario EJ46LP Hard Tension or EJ45 Hard Tension to be the best strings. But in all cases, I substitute the nylon G for the composite G that D'Addario provides in their composite sets. I purchase the individual G strings at "Just Strings.com" . I find the nylon G to be weak and flabby for want of a better description.
I primarily play a handmade spruce top, cocobolo back and sides Torres style guitar and with that guitar I use normal tension strings primarily D'Addario EJ45 with the G string substitution. I also like Hannabach 815 normal tension on that guitar as well. But Hannabach 815 strings normal tension feel like hard tension D'Addario's. I have used the D'Addario composite strings again in normal tension using the G composite and find those satisfactory as well. I do find that D'Addario Composites take a while i.e. 12 hours or more to break in and sound decent.
With regard to your guitar I would stick with hard or extra hard tension. From my experience with the RN6 I owned, you can get a nice nylon string sound but you won't get the subtleties (stands to reason) that one gets from a good traditional classical guitar i.e. different string brands are less important.
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Thomastik Infeld KR116 "Rope Cores."
Unique, expensive, long-lived; you will love them or hate them
for a given purpose/guitar. These are also magnetic, and do not feel
like typical nylons but they sure don't feel like any kind of electric/acoustic strings.
I also otherwise use D'Addario ProArte Hard Tension.
Best of luck to you.
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I find the note regarding buzzing to be interesting. I normally think of buzzing during the initial attack. Are you referring to buzz while sustaining or when releasing the string? Originally Posted by krusty
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I find that with some difficult voicings, either with crowded or stretched finger positions, that I sometimes do not get a string perfectly fretted, and the string buzzes against the fret throughout the sounding of that note. Piezo pickups will amplify the buzz far more than magnetic pickups on a regular electric guitar. With higher tension nylon strings, this occurs much more often. The solution is to either press harder, which becomes fatiguing after a while, or to use lighter strings. Originally Posted by DanielleOM
That being said, I sometimes switch back to high tension D'Addario composites and spend time working on my accuracy and those difficult (for me) voicings.
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I find these days I really try to avoid pressing any harder than necessary. I find it causes fatigue and tends to make the note go out of tune. I think I find myself trying to slide the finger closer to the fret when I don't like what I am hearing. I try to avoid certain bar chords where I know I have trouble getting all of the notes fretted properly. It's been many years since I have played any classical tunes and really cannot speak from that perspective. Originally Posted by krusty
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I will second Savarez strings. The alliance red card.
used them for years.
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Update: Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Off those basses came. Awful strings. Felt stiff, sticky, never went away.
Put on some hard tension pro arte basses, I'm much happier now.
That composite G is staying though. Great string.
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After seeing the string combinations referenced and the way they are sold I gather the life of nylon strings vs the wound strings is substantially different. Is that correct?
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D'Addario Pro Arte sounds the most neutral to my ears. Mainly because they are ubiquitous and the "standard" strings that most guitars makers build to.
D'Addario really appears to be the standard string supplied with all guitars, be they nylon, steel-string flat top, electric. That's not a bad thing as D'Addario makes good strings.
Other than D'Addario Pro Arte I like Augustine Blue Imperial.
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The T-I KR116 Rope Core is like low tension steel-strings suitable for classical guitars.
You either love them or think that they are the worst idea since sliced white bread.
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In my experience yes. The treble or nylon strings last about 2 times as long as the bass or wound strings. I'm currently playing about 2-3 hours a day and I get about 2-3 weeks out of a set of strings with the bass strings going first. I usually change the whole set though as it is one less thing to remember. Originally Posted by DanielleOM
Someone in another thread joked that when the strings finally settle in and sound their best, its time to change. I'm getting ready to change strings on one of my guitars and I'll be trying D'Addario Pro Arte EJ45TT (titanium trebles.).
I have tried the TI Rope Cores mentioned above but while I didn't hate them I just found them too much like a steel string e.g. silk and steel, in feel and tone. They do last a long time though which is a plus as they are not cheap.
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