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01-24-2016 09:48 PM
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not crazy about the case, i'll have to pass...
haha
cheers
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Seriously though, we're money no object, John's guitars sound as beautiful as they look...lottery hits, I'd have one.
Of course, that'd mean I'd have to actually play the lottery.
In case anybody doesn't know how good they sound:
Last edited by mr. beaumont; 01-25-2016 at 10:00 AM.
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or 250 squiers!
cheers
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I would rather have a blonde Cutaway D'Angelico New Yorker (1950's or 1960's) at half the price....
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The damn thing's 5 years old! You could buy a brand new guitar for a fraction of that price!
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Is it a fair guess that this guitar was purchased new for less than this?
I can imagine Monteleone's sentiments if that is so.
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Originally Posted by rabbit
Monteleone's prices really are that high ....
And he has a very long waiting list
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Thanks, Bluedawg, I believe you.
Such things are common in the fine art market.
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You could even send it to John Monteleones shop if it needs some fixing. He has John D'Angelicos old workbench in his shop.. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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I thought his guitars were about half that? Originally Posted by Bluedawg
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Harrumph.
Expensive.
And to boot the sound hole is off-centre as if he'd had one too many when he cut it.
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Send the photos to Mr. Wu and have a knock-off made for $1200. It's not like it hasn't been attempted before by some real classy fellows.
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3-year long. A 2014 quote of $75 000.00 for a Radio City. Mark Knopfler is a fan. Originally Posted by Bluedawg
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I had the opportunity to play a gorgeous looking jewel of a guitar by John Monteleone at The Newport Guitar Festival in 2004 or 2006. Beautiful woods and appointments. Played well and sounded very good. Priced at the time at $37K. A little over my budget. But he was a nice gentleman to talk with. Worth the price? If money were no object, and considering the value of the luthier's rep and markets for unique looking instruments, maybe.
But this seems way overvalued, though of course I have not played it. There is a steep "law of diminishing returns" when you get over $5K in my humble opinion. Btw as an aside, if you get to attend one of these guitar festivals with independent luthiers, it really is a blast. I met Monteleone, Ribbecke, Manzer, and many others plus sampled their guitars. Great experience. Gives you a sense of perspective on what is out there.
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A guitar for $85,000 better come equipped with snow plowing services for the next 5 years.
And it should play chord backup for me by itself too.
I mean, Im sure its nice and stuff but Jeeze..
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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
Monteleone's website says he does not do pricelists any more .. because so many people want customized work
The last price I saw for his mando-guitar new was $95K
I suspect the seller is also expecting to get a premium for immediate availability as opposed to a 3 year wait
And yes ... they may be overvalued ..... to most of us ..... but if the market will bear that price ... that is the value
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Plus, one man, one shop. He's not churning out 10 a month. He's getting paid a premium, for sure, but he also ain't exactly getting rich off these guitars...
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We must not forget about this group: Richest 62 people as wealthy as half of world's population, says Oxfam | Business | The Guardian . I'm sure at least one of them fancies an archtop guitar. Originally Posted by Bluedawg
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I assuming we won't see any gigging musicians hauling these around anytime soon. Museum pieces, too expensive to be played. The guitar here is not even ornate, how much for one of those being played in the video 150K? I know in the classical world people pay crazy prices for their violins, cellos etc... Maybe justified, I don't know. If I had millions I would pull the trigger too...
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The one that I played in 2004 was a gorgeous instrument but I would never take one out of my home without its own bodyguard at $37K!
Think about the violinists carrying Strads around NY city and leaving 'em in taxis. I shudder to think of the risk.
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Using top dollar materials, a builder may have $2,000 into a top quality archtop in materials alone. At most, it takes 100 hours to build one. Paying $300 per hour (no one's labor is worth more than that), you can justify $32,000 for a guitar made by the very best. More than that is just plain crazy. Monteleone is getting rich building guitars at those prices.
It is still a somewhat free country. More power to him.
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Even if he's not getting "rich" ... I hope he is at least building up a nice nest egg Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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He might not be getting rich, but living comfortably. If he only builds 1 guitar a year @ $75k - that's a decent living, but not necessarily rich.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
this sounds great of course - of course!
but it doesn't sound jazzy
these instruments produce crystal clear ringing bell like - piano like - sounds
but they don't feel soulful and sexy (forgive the crude attempt to say what 'jazzy' means).
there's more heaven than there is earth in them
and i want the earth man
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