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Collapsed top
despite seller writing "The top arch is fine, no sinking, the neck angle is wonderful as you can see by the bridge adjustment." and being most responsive to questions.
I think I'm covered by Reverb.com protection.
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01-14-2016 03:35 PM
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That really sucks !!! Gorgeous guitar. X braced ?
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you'll be fine.
the guitar, not so much...
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I believe so. I can touch the braces from the F holes.
Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
Return is under way. The last guitar I was to buy before retiring ... so I guess I'm back in the game (?) Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Are those your pics, or his? Just wondering if he wrote ...
"The top arch is fine, no sinking, the neck angle is wonderful as you can see by the bridge adjustment."
...in his ad, or as a response to your question?
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Reverb "protection" covers any payment made through Reverb. If payment is made through paypal outside of Reverb then Reverb doesn't extend their "protection" on that purchase. I learned that the hard way on the only purchase I had that had to be returned. Nonetheless, one is covered under paypal, assuming you've paid through paypal. Sorry for your hassle.
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My pics. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Ad: https://reverb.com/item/1507668-heri...tique-sunburst
Only now do I see the angles were such that the sunken top were not very visible. I don't know why a seller would waste anybody's time though.
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HeyNow, We are all very sorry. Beautiful flame on the axe. Big shame and shame on the seller too.
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Did it sound okay regardless of this issue? Just curious. (That sucks!)
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Looks like that was bargain priced. Do you have a dental mirror to see if braces are cracked or loose? My thought is if braces are cracked or loose then it is repairable. If the braces are bent then not so easy to fix.
I'm curious how that happens if the braces are not cracked or loose. Many of us have 70+ year old archtops with perfect tops. Why did it happen to that guitar? My 1937 L50 had no sag to the top I could detect and it is made with kerfed braces.
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It actually sounds very good acoustically - very loud. I only tuned it up to pitch for a few minutes just now, but holding it before and picking the slack strings, I could tell it is loud. Originally Posted by rpguitar
The pickup is unbalanced. The B and high E are much much louder than the other strings.
The neck is thick for a Heritage archtop. Moreso as you move down the neck towards the body.
I would be ecstatic to own this guitar if it wasn't for the top.
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I think it depends a lot on humidity and heat. Lack of humidity and you might crack a brace. Originally Posted by icr
Too much humidity or heat, the glue could come apart. I've heard of people leaving acoustics in their trunks in the summer and the whole thing coming apart.
I do have a dental mirror. Trying to find it.
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Is it possible the seller wasn't aware of how a "sunken top" appears? I mean, unless it was inspected by a luthier prior to selling I wouldn't know what to look for. And if the guitar isn't drawing notice to itself because its still playable perhaps it's possible the seller thought the tops condition was normal. I own inspection mirrors, but rarely use them on incoming guitars. What tipped the OP off to the fact the GE has a sunken top?
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I had never seen one on an archtop, but it was very obvious the moment I looked at from the side. It's harder to capture in the pictures. From the side, the middle of the top is almost as low, if not lower, than the side rims and then the bridge was jacked up very high which draws the eye to all the space between the tailpiece and the top of the guitar. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Also, the side of the F hole closer to the center of the top is noticeably lower than the F hole edge closer to the edge of the body.
And, the arch coming up from the top of the body on the bass side of the body near the neck accentuates the dip that happens below the arch.
Interestingly, there's a strip of wood inside about 0.75" wide down the seam of the back. I assume to hold the two back pieces together. Not sure if that is normal for GEs.
Found my dental mirror but can't really see anything.Last edited by HeyNow; 01-14-2016 at 07:11 PM.
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Does that guitar happen to have a little finish gone, at the widest part of the body?
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There's a scrape that has removed finish at the armrest. Originally Posted by wengr
Otherwise no
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Is this your guitar?
Used Heritage THE HERITAGE GOLDEN EAGLE Electric Guitar Sunburst | Electric Guitars | Music Go Round
If so, it was at Music go Round as shown here a few weeks ago. My friend wanted to buy it, but it fretted out badly in the higher frets due to the sunken top.
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Oh wow - looks like it! I guess this seller got it and realized he was f*cked. This seller is in Maine.
How much was MusicGoRound asking?
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After last price drop iirc, it was about $2150. At that price my buddy was really interested. We live near the store. He checked it in person and immediately realized there was an issue and passed on it. This was maybe three - four weeks ago.
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Surely MGR would have inspected this GE if they took it in on trade, and or listed it for sale. How lame!
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Heynow, hope that Reverb has got your back. I'm sorry for the guy who sold it to you though. Why didn't he just return it to Music Go Round? Or is the boilerplate full of shite? Buy Musical Instruments | Used Gear | Music Go Round .
What could cause the arch to sink if the braces are not broken?
Hope you get your money back.
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just out of curiosity, does the bridge fit the sunken top well?
I wish you good luck!
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Damn, that sucks.
It makes me realize how fortunate I've been knowing this has never happened to me.
Time to stop buying guitars for a while.
Heynow, I am really sorry this happened to you. When you get your hopes up on an instrument and it comes in with structural damage, its got to be disheartening. It kind of makes you look at the tops of all your current guitars everytime you play them to make sure you are not sunk..
And to 2b's point, sunken tops are not something you hear about or see every day. I'd give the seller a mulligan if he is treating you right on the return. Hopefully he can get it fixed and the guitar will be glorious once again.
Joe D.
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It's kind of suspicious that he specifically said that the top hasn't sunk in his ad. How often do you see that written in ads? Originally Posted by HeyNow
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Yes - the base of the bridge seems to sit flush to the top. Originally Posted by JazzNote
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