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this is an interesting one isn't it?
the great established small electric archtop vs. the new kid on the block
any experience here
my hunch is that the gb10 is the way to go (price issues aside)
more clarity and cut but still with the body and warmth to the sound - more interesting all round - no?
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11-03-2015 11:06 AM
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Bought mine around 10 years ago, used it every night in a theatre gig (rat pack) it sounded great very solid guitar apart from binding issues on the scratch plate, wish I'd never sold it (£900)
Originally Posted by Groyniad
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Obviously 2 pups vs one. SS-15 has a wider neck. GB10 has one more fret clear of the body, if that matters.
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This comparison is something I've been thinking about lately. I got a GB10 in a trade and I started to think that the GB10 would be my ideal guitar, due to the small and not so deep body, if it had a regular humbucker.
However I've now started to appreciate how nice is the neck pickup.
But still I wish it had no bridge pickup and also I feel the pickguard gets a bit on the way being too close to the high E string.
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$3500 (new gb10) vs $4600
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Couldn't you just remove the bridge pu? Originally Posted by Jazz_175
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GB10 seem to have a nice fat sound and also better for thinner wallets. I searched for info about thickness at rim, but couldn't find much. A couple of places said 85 mm at the most, which is more than I would have guessed from pictures. Does anybody know what is thickness of body?
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i saw 87 i think - which is over 3'' - that surprised me
the point about combining floating pickups with thick laminated (spruce) tops is that - one way or another - to get a good amplified sound you have to do something other than just seek to optimize the responsiveness of the top.
if you do just that you get a guitar that might work well acoustically but not when you try to amplify it
there are lots of different ways of avoiding over responsive tops - the two classic ways are
- laminated tops plus mounted pickups (1 or 2)
- carved tops (thick carved or heavily braced or both) plus mounted pickup
the gb10 - if it is laminated, as i'm sure it is - seems to be taking two or three steps in the direction of reducing responsiveness of the top (less than 15'' lower bout and thick laminated top - also sub 25'' scale length) and at least one big step in the other direction (no holes in top plus high output pickup).
it also - by all accounts that i've found - seems to stay quite close to the depth of 16'' and 17'' archtops (unlike the ss15)Last edited by Groyniad; 11-03-2015 at 04:18 PM.
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is a laminated top with floating pickups a manufacturing expediency? ie less wood to cut?
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i might do that in the end Originally Posted by Woody Sound
get a replacement pick guard and maybe a lollar js pickup.
i've heard people complain about the more recent pickups in these (don't know how recently they changed them to higher output ones...)
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I dunno, but it sure looks cool. Originally Posted by Bill C
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For a 15 "carved spruce top archtop, 1 3/4" neck, 2.75" body w/ebony and a KA floater, I feel I must plug the Peerless Martin Taylor Maestro:
News - Peerless Guitars Co Ltd
It sells for under 3k in the US.
It's a beaut....
Doc
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Originally Posted by docdosco
interesting - got quite an acoustic vibe i think
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It sounds sweet acoustically. The acoustic tone is one of it's best features. The carved spruce top on this model really resonates well. It has volume and good bass responce, and yet is a very comfortable 15" bout. Martin plays round wound strings, so it ships with a set of .012 D'Addario. Martin uses Elixr strings but the factory strings are OK. The 1 3/4" end nut is nice and gives it a bit more spacious feel that the regular 1 11/16 of other Peerless models (however, Peerless 1 11/16" necks in general tend not to feel cramped in the higher position as much as some other brands). Originally Posted by Groyniad
Although it is designed primarily as a fingerpicking guitar, (Martin rests his pinky on the pickguard when he plays) as a regular plucked, picked, strummed instrument it shines too. However, I don't know that anyone has particularly designed a fingerpicking guitar quite like this. The pickguard is set high enough to brace a little finger.
The PU is a KA, and when this guitar went into production, Peerless was persuaded to put the KA PUs on all their carved top models.
All in all, the Peerless Martin Taylor Maestro is a winner. Peerless makes a less expensive solid top model called a Virtuoso. I have never had one of these, but I have had a dozen or more Maestros. All of the keepers, IMO.
Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it....
Doc Dosco
Doc Dosco -- Jazz Guitar
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Martin Taylor playing the Maestro:
Last edited by docdosco; 11-04-2015 at 05:23 PM.
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And for bass response: (this is friggin amazing)
Last edited by docdosco; 11-04-2015 at 11:14 PM.
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If it means anything the two times I've had lessons of Martin in the past couple of years he was playing his Vanden. Not to say that the Peerless isn't a great guitar as it really is a lovely instrument but I think there are better options available.
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How much a Vanden would be? I'm not sure you can compare a Peerless with a Vanden... Originally Posted by Gabe
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The best I've ever heard Martin Taylor sound was on his old Barker that he received from his mentor, Diz Disley.
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Barker made wonderful guitars. The first time I heard or heard of Martin Taylor, IIRC, was when he was in Stephane Grapelli's band on the Tonight Show around 1980-81. Jawdropping. Probably played his Barker.
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Yeah...Taylor played the Barker in Grappelli's band.
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Oh man - that is painful - I'd rather pay Chris Forshage to build me another custom guitar for $3500. Originally Posted by tucson matt
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Always thought that it was Ike Isaacs who gave that Barker to him for his 21st birthday. Originally Posted by Greentone
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Yep...I mis-remembered an alliterative name.
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Old thread. Bumping this one up wondering if anyone has anything else on the comparison.
The GB10, SS-15, Jimmy Bruno, Frank Vignola models are all so appealing to me.
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