Slaman DS 250 - Charlie Christian Commemorative series

**Woody Sound** · 10-24-2015, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Fred Archtop

Hello jazz guitarists,
Having long admired his guitars on YouTube, I finally got in touch with luthier Daniel Slaman over the last months. I am a long and incurable monomaniac about archtops mounted with Charlie Christian pickups and the visit of his workshop, last summer, was a kind of dream come true.

Your tone is gorgeous, awesome.

**pubylakeg** · 10-25-2015, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by stringmaster

Now an Alvino Rey model--hmm?

Especially if it comes with a Sonovox

**Fred Archtop** · 10-25-2015, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by pubylakeg

Especially if it comes with a Sonovox

That's a great piece of movie. Thanks for sharing. That's exactly the double CC model Alvino is playing here, you can see the guitar in the close-up view at 3:33.

As for the talkin' guitar, well, Daniel is obviously able to build any guitar from this era. You should ask him if he can do this.

Great, great

**Fred Archtop** · 10-25-2015, 10:12 AM

Here is the beast. Picture is a exerpt of 'Vintage Vertigo' a nice publication of about vintage guitars published here in France. Actually the picture was taken by Lynn Wheelwright.

Daniel told me he will move a little the bridge PU to the neck, so that the sound gets less aggressive. Should be one of a kind guitar.

**Jabberwocky** · 10-25-2015, 11:59 AM

Daniel did a 2010 DS-155 with 2 CC pickups. I'm surprised he's making another one like that in DS-250 form.
https://www.archtop.com/ac_10slaman_DS155.html

**Fred Archtop** · 10-26-2015, 06:51 AM

Hello jazz guitar lovers,

Second video featuring a trio rendition. I don't know why I couldn't edit my first post.

Best to you and have a nice swinging day.

**Top of the Arch!** · 10-26-2015, 04:58 PM

Wonderful playing and great TONE!!! Bob

**disco~juice** · 10-27-2015, 02:08 PM

That's a really nice project mr Slaman is putting up.
Also, your playing and tone is gorgeous!!

**rpguitar** · 10-27-2015, 02:18 PM

Wow, sounds beautiful especially in an intimate group setting (virtual though it may be

).

I see you're using TI Swings. Tried roundwounds yet?

**pingu** · 10-27-2015, 02:25 PM

gorgeous Slaman there

I had the chance to try out a real ES 250 a few months ago in Paris. The amplified sound was just amazing and made a lasting impression to me.

wow impressed !!

I've never met anyone who's seen one ....
let alone played one !

and you're saying you actually prefer the Slaman to that Es250 ??

Nice to know that the 250 style cc pickup
can be balanced string to string effectively

I wonder why Slayman/Metheny went for
the cc pickup with the screws on the
Sisterhood guitars when he could have used
an es250 type cc pickup
easier to adjust I guess ??

**rpguitar** · 10-27-2015, 03:36 PM

Daniel told me that Pat explicitly asked for a CC pickup that was "more balanced" or something to that effect. And it gave Daniel and his component/hardware maker Dirk an opportunity to develop the adjustable version.

**pingu** · 10-27-2015, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by rpguitar

Daniel told me that Pat explicitly asked for a CC pickup that was "more balanced" or something to that effect. And it gave Daniel and his component/hardware maker Dirk an opportunity to develop the adjustable version.

understood .... but
isn't the es250 cc pickup type adjustable ?

**wintermoon** · 10-27-2015, 04:09 PM

for some reason, the orig ES-250 p.u.'s w/non adjustable individual blades are very balanced, unlike many of the orig 150 p.u.'s which tend to have a hot B string [hence the notched B on the last 150 CC variation]

**Greentone** · 10-27-2015, 04:19 PM

Great clips! Slaman's tribute to the ES-250 looks to be a solid winner. The tone (and your playing) are inspiring.

**pubylakeg** · 10-27-2015, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by pingu

understood .... but
isn't the es250 cc pickup type adjustable ?

Pat Metheny's "Sister" model guitar has an original design Slaman p/up with individually adjustable screw polepieces, whereas the traditional Gibson ES-250 pickup with the serrated blade polepiece is only adjustable via the 3 point mount.

**Fred Archtop** · 10-27-2015, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by rpguitar

I see you're using TI Swings. Tried roundwounds yet?

Yes, the guitar was originaly mounted with D'addario 12-52 roundwound by Daniel. I must say that they also go very well, with more punch and brightness. I might go back to them depending on the project I will use the guitar with.

Cheers.

**Fred Archtop** · 10-27-2015, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by pingu

I've never met anyone who's seen one ....
let alone played one !

I was after her for a possible acquisition, but I was just the second guy on the list, and the first did the transaction...I must say that going for the Slaman model is certainly a better choice, as far as music only is concerned.

Here is a photo of the ES 250 I tried in Paris.

Enjoy !

**Fred Archtop** · 10-27-2015, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by pubylakeg

Pat Metheny's "Sister" model guitar has an original design Slaman p/up with individually adjustable screw polepieces, whereas the traditional Gibson ES-250 pickup with the serrated blade polepiece is only adjustable via the 3 point mount.

Yes as for the DS 250 model Daniel has already adjusted the polepieces so that they give a perfect balance for a 12-52 gauge.

**pingu** · 10-27-2015, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Fred Archtop

Yes as for the DS 250 model Daniel has already adjusted the polepieces so that they give a perfect balance for a 12-52 gauge.

did Daniel cut/filed down the various heights ....
or are they individual polepieces ?

thanks

**pingu** · 10-27-2015, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Fred Archtop

I was after her for a possible acquisition, but I was just the second guy on the list, and the first did the transaction...I must say that going for the Slaman model is certainly a better choice, as far as music only is concerned.

Here is a photo of the ES 250 I tried in Paris.

Enjoy !

wow thats great , more photos please !!
thats like the holy grail to me
looks to be in good condition
I bet that was a LOT of money ....

**Greentone** · 10-27-2015, 10:16 PM

ES-250 = Holy Grail

You are the only person I have had contact who had played one. Awesome!

I have lots of miles behind the wheel of the 30s ES-150, but never a 250.

(sound of jaw dropping to floor)

**Fred Archtop** · 10-28-2015, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by pingu

wow thats great , more photos please !!
thats like the holy grail to me
looks to be in good condition
I bet that was a LOT of money ....

Here you are

She was incredibly clean, and yes, the shop was asking for quite a lot...As you can see, the maple sides are absolutely gorgeous, much more than the back, to me at least. By the way, a big thank to my wife who has shot the pictures !