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Hmmmm... already in stock at their European distributors for a little over £300 !
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09-03-2015 05:13 PM
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I can't think of much else that matches the feature set at this size and weight, especially for jazz.
The first thing I'd want to know is how the rig sounds with one of my reverbs added. If I didn't like the tone there would be nothing to talk about. But if I did like the tone, I'd find a way to deal with the separate reverb.
For an extra 1 pound, I'd velcro the 101 and my reverb to a 16" section of 1" x 6" poplar. I've done that sort of thing, and it has held up over many years of moderate use. Professionals might prefer 3/4" plywood (2 pounds). Or if I felt like spending the bread, I'd use one of the new Pedeltrain boards: At $80 and 1.6 pounds, the Metro 16 would do nicely.
I'd as soon choose my own reverb anyway, and I have to say that the $299 price point makes the 101 very tempting. Do I need it? No! Will I buy it? ... Well ??? ...
EDIT: I should add that I've been a happy Mach II head owner for a while now. Mostly I've used channel 1, but I realized that my most typical EQ is a lot like one of the Tri-Q settings. So after reading @MaxTwang's post #30 (following this post), I fooled around a bit last night with Channel 2 and got some pretty nice results. I agree with @MaxTwang that they picked the right 3 controls with Tri-Q, Voicing, and Hi-Cut, at least for me. The one thing I haven't worked out yet is that Channel 2 seems to require a higher gain than channel 1 to achieve the same volume. I'm not sure if that is something in the amp itself, or if I just need to dial it in differently.Last edited by HighSpeedSpoon; 09-04-2015 at 10:56 AM.
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Having played a MicroPro Mach II I'd say they picked the right 3 controls with Tri-Q, Voicing, and Hi-Cut. On the MicroPro I leave the TMB at noon and used Voice and Hi-Cut, on channel 2 the EQ (looks the same as Tri-Q) worked very well. The combination of Tri-Q, Voicing, and Hi-Cut on the 101 should be very usable.
If it takes pedals as well as the MicroPro the 101 should be a pretty cool little head.
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Okay... first of all, I am not affiliated with Quilter in any way. Second of all, I am not a professional, but consider myself to be a fairly competent... let's say a decent guitarist who loves to practice 1-2 hours a day. I've been on the hunt for guitars, amps, pedals, etc in a serious way for the last ten years.
I've been playing a Quilter Aviator head for one and a half years and have liked it so much that I've sold my Evans, my Ceriatone Dumble clone, and an Alessandro Rottweiler combo.
I've had the Quilter 101 mini for three days now. I mainly use RE cabinets. Been playing a Heritage Eagle and Gibson 335 with the 101 mini driving both a Twin 8 and a Stealth 10. Sounds full and rich with plenty of brilliance. Really nice. The AI Clarus produces a solid woody jazz tone, but to my ears, compared to the Quilter, it sounds somewhat flat and uninspiring. The Quilters give more sparkle and dimensionality. The Jazz setting on the 101 mini sounds fine to my ears and the hi-cut feature works well. I don't mind the Tri-Q eq setup at all. Works for me. Plenty of power for my purposes.
I've also played a Tele and a Strat through an RE NY 8 which I really like for single coils. In my humble opinion it seems they've improved the overdrive capabilities and tone from the first generation Aviator. The full-q and tweed voices seem to work best with the overdrive.
The Quilter/Raezer's Edge combination is working really well for me. The 101 mini might have a little less bottom end... but overall compares well with the more powerful Aviator head.
These are my initial impressions... YMMV.
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Thanks for the review. If you had to choose between your Aviator and the new Mini Head, which would you choose and why?
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If I had to choose, I guess right now, because of the enhanced versatility and improved overdrive, I would probably select the mini for my purposes. But I would definitely keep the Aviator around in case I needed the power in a louder playing context. But again... I've just had the mini for a few days.
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Thanks Vernon. I may get a chance to play one in the next week and i'm leaning very hard in that direction.
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these days, I see little reason for channel switching. The dumble style overdrives and other overdrives along with EQ units have rendered channel switching obsolete for me. I can get a much wider range of tones out of a single channel amp and pedals, plus with the channel switching amps, many of them share a set of tone controls or cascade one channel into another.
Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Back when i used mesa or dumble style amps, I always had to compromise one channel or another. With a single channel amp and pedals, not so...
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I have it and love it!!!
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Has anyone used the new micro pro mach 2's for jazz? The 8" model looks great.
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I've had a Tone Block for a year or so and like it quite a bit, but I have always wished it had a bit more tone control.
I have an open back cab with a 15" Eminence speaker voiced for pedal steel and it works very well for conventional 6-string.
Anyone that has tried both the Tone Block and the mini please chime in. The feature set of the mini looks great.
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I also had a ceriatone dumble and IMO, the aviator wasn't even close to being in the same league. Additionally, the AI amp sounded much better for clean without the spikey ice pick in the ear of the aviator. I was also playing through RE cabs but additionally used an open back 1x12 with a wizard speaker in it. I like the idea of the quilter but it wasn't quite there. I've heard that the newer models are better though.
I do agree that the quilter sounds good with single coils. My take is that the aviator was designed for semi clean strat/tele stuff. Didn't like it with an archtop at all.
I'll be happy to find out that the newer stuff sounds better but the aviator was just unusable for me.
Originally Posted by vernon
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rich severson demos one on youtube I believe but I didn't care for the tone. Originally Posted by drbhrb
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One point of clarification about Dumble clone versus Aviator... the main reason I let the Ceriatone go was because I got an Ethos overdrive and found that the Ethos plus the Quilter got me 95% of the way there, and I came to the conclusion that was good enough for me. Neither Aviator or 101 mini can get there by themselves. They need a little help. But for me they work very well for a clean, clear, consistent, quiet, fender-ish platform.
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For me, the best thing about the ceriatone dumble is the clean tone. No SS amp comes close other than the kemper IMO. I can take or leave the lead tone of a dumble amp. I actually prefer the pedals like the zendrive or ethos but the clean of the dumble is ridiculously good IMO. Originally Posted by vernon
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+1 for Dumble cleans. I use the Ethos clean through the Tone Block for EQ control. I think the Quilter stuff has the right response and feel but like you totally agree their line needed more EQ shaping. I gigged a lot with my Tone Block set up like this with OD's on the floor before just putting everything on a pedal board, now I couldn't be happier. I'd like to try the new mini head for convenience. Originally Posted by jzucker
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I'm using Mesa Flux Five OD with a Quilter Micro Pro II and am very happy. This rig doesn't have quite the detail of my cranked Boogie MKIIB (on a good day), but the Quilter + Flux Five are more consistent and get the tone and feel I like all the way down to very low volume. Predictability over a range of volume, including very low, is something the Quilter has over tube amps. That old Boogie sounded best when it was turned up just loud enough to drown out the sound guy yelling "turn it down".
Based on how I use the Micro Pro the 101 head's tone shaping should be pretty flexible.Last edited by MaxTwang; 09-17-2015 at 01:00 PM.
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This looks interesting...I have been using a Fender 25R, which is not what you would consider a "jazz" amp, nor is it discussed with as much reverence as Henrikksens, Polytones, etc...lol. But it is what I have that is small. I also sometimes use a Fender Rumble bass amp, which with a reverb pedal actually sounds really nice with a couple of my guitars...but this might be what I need.
I just bought an Ampeg GVT5H 5 watt tube head, which sounded really nice on both an Ibanez 112 cab, and a Fender 112 cab that my local Sam Ash had. Pair that with this head, and I can have solid state AND tube heads that both will fit on top of the Fender 112 cab, and make all of my guitars happy. I am looking forward to hearing your results as you play them...I will have to wait a few weeks before I have funds to order one.
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Cool setup. I actually tried the Ethos clean as a preamp but found that I couldn't quite get the vibe I was looking for with it. I have a pair of blackface fender showman preamps in pedal sized enclosures. That's the ideal setup. I have used those in the past through a lot of different SS setups including the mambo, the acousticimg and a power amp and it always sounds like a fender amp to me and anyone who's critically listening. However, after I got the kemper, I retired those preamps and now they just sit on a shelf.
I find that for rock or blues or jazz, the kemper just smokes anything out there including the vast majority of boutique tube amps. The Amplifire pedal just got a bunch of new profiles from ampfactory and i'm hearing that it comes damn close to the kemper but the stock profiles when I got mine were weak for cleans.
For solid state, the mambo is still my favorite. It doesn't get any tube vibe like the quilter stuff though.
Originally Posted by petermelton
+1 for Dumble cleans. I use the Ethos clean through the Tone Block for EQ control. I think the Quilter stuff has the right response and feel but like you totally agree their line needed more EQ shaping. I gigged a lot with my Tone Block set up like this with OD's on the floor before just putting everything on a pedal board, now I couldn't be happier. I'd like to try the new mini head for convenience.
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It's a pretty cool and lightweight head. Seems to like a variety of speakers: Austin Speakerworks KTS-70, Mesa MS-12, Greenback, and a Eminence Alpha-8A.
I like the Voice control - nice for those times your amp sounds too big, too small, too bright, etc. - just pick a different Voice. Like the MicroPro, the 101 might not be your dream amp in the studio but it seems pretty adaptable in ways your dream amp probably isn't in the real world.
Plugged into the speaker of my MicroPro II it sounded a lot like, well, a Quilter!
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It sounds like it shares many of the Micropro II's characteristics. If I recall correctly, the Micropro is intended to have more wattage than the mini amp. How noticeable is the difference in volume and headroom, if there is any at all? What else would you say separates the models? Originally Posted by MaxTwang
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Anyone try these out with a band yet? 50solid state watts seems pretty limited. Is it enough power to play with a drummer?
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I believe that in both the jazz and surf modes, it's 100 watts. Originally Posted by ingeneri
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The MicroPro is 100 watts on all voices where the 101 is only 100 watts on the Jazz & Surf voices and 50 watts on the others. Jazz & Surf are comparable loudness & headroom with the MicroPro, other voices break up earlier. The MicroPro has 2 channels and has more features on channel 1 (boost, TMB, high cut, Limiter) and also has Tremolo and Reverb.
If you already have a cabinet or you use different cabinets for different purposes then the 101 is the way to go.
If you don't have a cab and are looking for more features then I'd also look at the Micropro as the 8" combo is small, light, loud.
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How many of the options on the mini amp are suitable for clean sounds? Is the clean headroom enough to play alongside a typical drummer in a quartet setting?
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