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    Lawson - stone ,
    Thanks for sharing - the guitar has great tone.

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    Just having fun, btw! I have and love a peerless monarch and a peerless-made Epiphone Broadway, and hope there is an L5 in my future, but also thought it would be fun to put up a guitar worth about 1% or less of the lovelies that have appeared here.

    Don't mind me, I'm just foolin' about...

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    Lawson Stone, Having fun is what it's all about. Your Guitar guitar sounds Great! And you, are quite the Jazzer my man.
    Thanks, Joe D

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    After seeing the gold pup cover, gold finger tailpiece and gold tuners, my Heritage Johnny Smith told me it wants to be a LeGrande. I will order an ebony finger rest with the rose on it. But do you think changing the black hardware to gold is tacky?

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    Thanks Joe. I have been fooling around with guitars all my life, discovered jazz guitar in the 1990's by discovering Joe Pass, and it/he ruined me for anything else. I'd rather play jazz really badly than anything else well.

    I should share some of my Joe Pass stories with you. I corresponded with him for about 18 months before his death. Ellen called me when Joe died, and I flew out to attend his funeral. His music really touched and still touches something very deep inside me.

    I'm hoping to get the nerve to post more. I've been at this now as a rank amateur for maybe 25 years!

    I did own an ES175 which I traded for a beautiful Heritage Golden Eagle, which I sold to get out of credit card debt a few years back. I played an Epiphone Sheraton II but it wasn't the same, so recently I sold a bunch of stuff, including the Sheraton II, and bought myself an Epi Broadway (Peerless era) and a Peerless Monarch.

    But that cheap, crappy old Johnson still does something for me… it has been a good practice patient for all my escapades learning how to maintain, repair, set up and generally operate on these instruments.

    One day I'll post a shot of my own L-5… right after I buy it… and likely only days before my funeral after my wife finds out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    After seeing the gold pup cover, gold finger tailpiece and gold tuners, my Heritage Johnny Smith told me it wants to be a LeGrande. I will order an ebony finger rest with the rose on it. But do you think changing the black hardware to gold is tacky?
    Gold hardware is never tacky. I have a Loar LH650, all chrome/nickel looking hardware, and I'm seriously thinking of replacing it all with gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Okay, this is to make you guys jealous. Yeah, you can love your fancy pantsy L42.7's all you want, but watch me whip out my JOHNSON!

    Oh yeah, this axe set me back all of $50! Even came with a nice gig-bag. And to make you jealous of my amazing talent, I'm looping a single 4 measure phrase…

    Good job

    proof that tone is in the fingers .....

    someday I'll post a sound clip ... when I get around to it

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    Sorry I look so grim in that picture. I really wasn't angry or sick… long day at work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    As long as we're posting pictures of Le Grands ... here's my '93



    This pictures shows the chablis color pretty well



    and the back



    My Le Grand to me sounds like the on line demos of Benedettos and other boutique archtops ... as opposed to the classic L5 sound ... I really like it's electric and acoustic sound


    I'd love to add a L5P to my collection and there are some nice one's near me that I could have for a great price, but I ain't got no money for another guitar right now ..... and if I did I would more than likely spring for a Super 400

    I've played some of the new L5Ps and I really like them as electrics ... I'm not sold on their acoustic qualities .. yet, but I'd love to bring one home and see if it came to life with some playing and a quieter environment than a music store

    I see you've added a wooden bridge. I noticed a huge difference when I added one on my Le Grand. In fact, I can't believe they don't come as 'standard'. Especially on a guitar designed for it's acoustic properties.

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    Gorgeous ! I love the back. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickyboy
    I see you've added a wooden bridge. I noticed a huge difference when I added one on my Le Grand. In fact, I can't believe they don't come as 'standard'. Especially on a guitar designed for it's acoustic properties.

    Funny thing is that Jim Triggs did the bridge for me ... made a big improvement in tone IMHO

    I visited his shop in Nashville while attending the 1994 NAMM show and he carved it for me. Wish I could afford to own some more of his work.

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    Here is my "Crimson" Wesmo that I picked up from the Music Zoo. Jabberwocky gets the assist. Funny thing is that there was nothing in the advertisement about it being a "Crimson edition" and I had no idea what it even was until I pulled out the red booklet and posted the question here. Its been opening up beautifully and is a wonderful instrument overall.


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    Just going through my local guitar shop and ran across these new Gibson jazz boxes... All brand new and just taken out of the boxes...Gibson Custom Crimson Division?-image-jpgGibson Custom Crimson Division?-image-jpg

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    Those alnico pickups look delicious


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    Scotto,

    I see that everything is priced in Yen. It must be nice to live in Japan--where the love of jazz is strong enough to warrant having your local music shop carry an array of jazz guitars from Gibson like that. In the US--home of both jazz and the archtop guitar--you'd have to go to The Music Zoo, or someplace unusual like that to have a _chance_ to see a display remotely like that.

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    WOW Alnico's and no ugly rubber grommet on the toggle. I'm off to Japan. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    Scotto,

    I see that everything is priced in Yen. It must be nice to live in Japan--where the love of jazz is strong enough to warrant having your local music shop carry an array of jazz guitars from Gibson like that. In the US--home of both jazz and the archtop guitar--you'd have to go to The Music Zoo, or someplace unusual like that to have a _chance_ to see a display remotely like that.
    Greentone, yes, the jazz scene is strong here and I do appreciate the selection of instruments available whenever I pop in or find a new jem of a store when I'm about Tokyo. I might say Tokyo could be the Jazz capital of the world at the moment and some very good Japanese jazz musicians including young musicians not just a bunch of old geezers playing "Misty". Needless to say but there are probably another half dozen shops in town that have the same quality or better selection of archtops and they move. I saw a couple of double cutaway L5's in one store and they were both sold when I returned about a week later. Apparently, people are buying these guitars as investments and building up collections from what I'm being told. So I walked in to my local grocery store the other day and "Art Blakley live in Kyoto" was being piped and I just had to smile...

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    There's a gorgeous L5 Wes Crimson that was recently posted on Gbase by The Music Zoo. I really dig the burst. If I could get it, I would!

    (Hmmm... Text says color is ebony. I wonder if they posted the wrong pics.)

    ----- Edit: Yep, TMZ had the wrong pics as an ebony colored L5 is now pictured. Not of a fan of black L5s, but the guitar originally pictured is gorgeous! -----

    https://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-cu...bson-crimson-e



    Last edited by Steve Z; 12-02-2015 at 05:33 PM.

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    I have to ask anyone who's bought one of these Crimson deals: Does that stupid gold sticker actually come off the pickguard? I hate that. It would be a shame if it wasn't easily removed.

    That is a gorgeous WesMo, and the price is pretty reasonable too.

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    yes.
    it does come off.
    It's one of those peel off things that kinda stays on with no adhesive.
    I put mine on the plastic bit inside my crimson booklet/cerificate thingy.

    I remember wondering the same thing about the pics of gibsons with white scratchplates...then realized the white is a protective covering over the scratchptate! doh!
    Last edited by nickyboy; 12-02-2015 at 05:22 AM.

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    Does any one like the l5 head stock cover? I find it very pedestrian for an instrument that is a work of art. Even plain black would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg

    I've played some of the new L5Ps and I really like them as electrics ... I'm not sold on their acoustic qualities .. yet, but I'd love to bring one home and see if it came to life with some playing and a quieter environment than a music store

    That was my conclusion, sort of -- and all I could do was walk out the door keep what I had. I tried 3 new L-5's up at Dave's. Maybe I needed a smaller room, etc etc. The one that originally got my attention was an L-5 acoustic w/ BJB P/U. I thought it was going to knock me off the chair unplugged - - or maybe that it should have, but it didn't.
    Then I played a new non-p/u L-5 acoustic and then a Wes MO.

    The only definitive 'unplugged volume' conclusion I could draw was that the WesMo was quieter than the other 2, but not by much. They all had the even L-5 sound top-to-bottom, no dead spots. Fit and finish were as they should be -meaning awfully good.

    I am still scratching my head.

    Any ideas appreciated as always and thanks !

    Dennis

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    It's all about the weight.

    It's not just the electronics and pickups - it's the wood itself, and probably the thickness of the tops, backs, sides, and braces.

    The acoustic L-5s I own (1928, 1947, 1975) are all in the 6 lb range. These new L-5P guitars seem to be up around 7.5, which is a huge difference (25% heavier). If you consider that my '75 L-5C also has a floater, pickguard, bracket, pots, and wiring, then it's an apples-to-apples comparison and the wood is the primary culprit.

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    Interesting point Roger. The classic D'Angelicos seemed to all be around 6lbs too, from what I've read.

    the post war L5s are all bigger guitars than I can cope with now, but I still lust after one with the alnico staples. I played a P90 equipped 1951 L5 a few years ago, and I still remember how great it was. (sigh).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar
    It's all about the weight.

    It's not just the electronics and pickups - it's the wood itself, and probably the thickness of the tops, backs, sides, and braces.

    The acoustic L-5s I own (1928, 1947, 1975) are all in the 6 lb range. These new L-5P guitars seem to be up around 7.5, which is a huge difference (25% heavier). If you consider that my '75 L-5C also has a floater, pickguard, bracket, pots, and wiring, then it's an apples-to-apples comparison and the wood is the primary culprit.
    So, if I'm understanding this Roger - would it be a safe bet that your '75 L-5 C - w/ all that hardware, could very well be louder unplugged, than a new L-5 acoustic ?


    Interesting, if that's the case. The 11/15 issue of Just Jazz Guitar has that interview w/ Roger Borys w quotes from Jim D'Aquisto, and they each made the point that adding cosmetic things e.g. binding, 'heavy-duty' fretmarkers, etc etc -all take wood out ( ' add weight ' ? ) but provide no improvement in sound.

    Thanks again !!