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    ES339, as you may have guessed it.
    I can get all kind of tone I want from it (or nearly ...) "jazz", blues, rock, fusion, pop ....by tweaking the amp settings, vol and tone pots on guitar, and pedal.
    As Docbop mentioned, it is basically a shrunk 335, or as Gibson mentioned, a perfect compromised between a LesPaul and a 335.
    And at the time I got it, the price was shrunk too, compared to a 335 ...

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    This is probably my favorite combo.
    My gibson chet atkins tenneseann and 68´vibrolux has been my most used gear for about 10 years or so. Nice beefy neck and good tones, some crackling stuff going on with the amp now though, will have to figure out what´s causing that.

    -and when i got the guitar i payed about 1000$ for it, one of my cheapest guitars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.





    Sure do, otherwise I would have had Gibson build them with stops. Just to be clear, I don't use these for jazz gigs.



    Although Gibson does classify them as thinlines I've always considered ES-3X5-type guitars to be semi's, but that leaves some grey areas, like the ES-330 and the four guitars in the above photo that have carved tops and backs and don't have a block up the center. I tend to classify them functionally as semi's and consider these my thinlines:





    See photo above

    Gibson built at least two guitars like my ES-355/L-5. The other one I know of was black and might have had unbound f-holes.

    Danny W.
    Danny,

    I think you need a second home just for your wonderful collection of guitars. I suggest a modern layout with few walls to allow room for a photo of all your guitars in one shot.

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    Going to Danny W's home is like walking onto the set of the photo shoot for the cover of Band of Gypsies' Electric Ladyland; the original cover with the bunch of buxom nekkid ladies.

    If I had to choose a Gibson thinline archtop, it would have to be an L-5CT or the ES-175 Thinline that Gibson made for Joe Pass in 1991/1992.

    The Byrdland is cute as a button but I wish it had a longer scale; 24.75" would do me fine.

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    I finally played a Byrdland a few weeks ago after all of these years and I loved the body size ...

    The scale was wonky, but I could get used to it ... or maybe I could look for a good deal on an L5CT ...


    Or finally order that Campellone that I've been dreaming of ... if I can get it in a thinline configuration



    I do have an ES335TD from 1980 and an ES446 that are both very nice ....

    Matched with the right amp, either one will deliver dulcet tones of jazz flavored bliss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    .. an ES446 that are both very nice ....

    Matched with the right amp, either one will deliver dulcet tones of jazz flavored bliss
    An ES-446! Say no more,

    PSA: Gibson ES-446 ?00 | Dave's Guitar Shop .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESCC
    Danny,

    I think you need a second home just for your wonderful collection of guitars. I suggest a modern layout with few walls to allow room for a photo of all your guitars in one shot.
    That describes our house perfectly--we have walls around the bedrooms, baths and laundry, the rest of the house is open. I just don't have the energy to take out more than a few guitars at a time to photograph.

    Danny W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.
    That describes our house perfectly--we have walls around the bedrooms, baths and laundry, the rest of the house is open. I just don't have the energy to take out more than a few guitars at a time to photograph.

    Danny W.
    Let me know if you need some help arranging them for your next photo shoot .....

    You're a short drive from me ..

    I can bring beer or root beer or whatever your preferred beverage is


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Let me know if you need some help arranging them for your next photo shoot .....

    You're a short drive from me ..

    I can bring beer or root beer or whatever your preferred beverage is

    I'm a long drive away but I offer to help Bluedawg. I'll bring the Chili Con Carne made with Romano Tomatoes and my, err, secret sauce.

  11. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.





    Sure do, otherwise I would have had Gibson build them with stops. Just to be clear, I don't use these for jazz gigs.



    Although Gibson does classify them as thinlines I've always considered ES-3X5-type guitars to be semi's, but that leaves some grey areas, like the ES-330 and the four guitars in the above photo that have carved tops and backs and don't have a block up the center. I tend to classify them functionally as semi's and consider these my thinlines:





    See photo above

    Gibson built at least two guitars like my ES-355/L-5. The other one I know of was black and might have had unbound f-holes.

    Danny W.
    We would all like to thank you for single handily keeping Gibson in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    I'm a long drive away but I offer to help Bluedawg. I'll bring the Chili Con Carne made with Romano Tomatoes and my, err, secret sauce.
    I'm in, I've got some United miles . . . I'll bring dessert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESCC
    I'm in, I've got some United miles . . . I'll bring dessert.
    Cool! dessert in the desert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playerizor
    We would all like to thank you for single handily keeping Gibson in business.
    Gibsons? Gibsons? I didn't notice any Gibsons. I thought this thread was about the Boss GT-10 in the lower left corner? Oh, now I see them. Oh, OK got it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Let me know if you need some help arranging them for your next photo shoot .....

    You're a short drive from me ..

    I can bring beer or root beer or whatever your preferred beverage is

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    I'm a long drive away but I offer to help Bluedawg. I'll bring the Chili Con Carne made with Romano Tomatoes and my, err, secret sauce.
    Quote Originally Posted by ESCC
    I'm in, I've got some United miles . . . I'll bring dessert.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    Cool! dessert in the desert
    You guys are all heart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    Gibsons? Gibsons? I didn't notice any Gibsons. I thought this thread was about the Boss GT-10 in the lower left corner? Oh, now I see them. Oh, OK got it..
    Just shows that it's an old photo--sold the GT-10 five years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Playerizor
    We would all like to thank you for single handily keeping Gibson in business.
    I sure hope not--haven't bought a guitar in ten years.

    Danny W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longways to Go
    I've got a great 2011 Midtown Custom too. Not everyone's cup of tea-- I know. I like everything about it except for some sharp fret edges -- but those will be dealt with eventually. The Burstbucker set gives great tones.

    I've been hunting for a nice 335 to join the pack -- but I haven't met the right one yet
    The MTC is a bit thinner than a 335 and one badass guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNAPPI
    The MTC is a bit thinner than a 335 and one badass guitar.
    I've got them both beside me ('86 ES 335 Studio/'12 MTC) and just compared them.
    The MTC is about 3mm thicker than the 335 at the body end and a flat top, is one badass guitar for sure.
    The 335 being an arch top with back/belly bump would be fractionally thicker overall.
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    Anyone have an ES-347? Saw one some time back with split coil wiring at Archtop guitars. I believe it was listed as ES-347TD. Looked very nice and was priced around $2700.

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    I think if Gibson made a single cut, 339 sized thinline, priced at or just under 3k, they could rule the jazz world again. But instead we get another Les Paul that can make morning coffee or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    I think if Gibson made a single cut, 339 sized thinline, priced at or just under 3k, they could rule the jazz world again. But instead we get another Les Paul that can make morning coffee or something.
    The ES446 fits your description pretty well .... I guess it just didn't sell well enough to keep it in the line up

    At the time it seemed to me to be a response to the PRS Archtop guitars .. nice guitars that didn't do all that well either in the market


    This is an awesome guitar from Collings that fills that niche ... but at $8K I suspect that it has limited appeal

    Collings City Limits Jazz Thin Body Blonde | Rainbow Guitars


    How do the ES-Les Pauls do for jazz? There's one near me at a decent price. The dealer has it listed as "used" ... but I suspect it's really a blow out item.

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    Well, there always the Heritage Millenium Standard Ultra. It's got the specs Mr. B. likes . . and artful negotiating skills can indeed get one for just inside $3,000 . . . especially with my assistance. :-)

    http://www.heritageguitar.com/models...dvo_specs.html

    Edit: Oh . . . it's a pretty dmned hot looking guitar as well.
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    That's my favorite there on the left. ...and yeah, I know.
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    I have gigged for years with my '75 ES-335TD. It is a super, universal guitar. It will cover any gig and gets the classic Gibson sounds. That being said, my favorite Gibson thinlines are the ES-330 (short neck, black P90s), and the short-lived ES-175 thinline from the Norlin era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottM
    That's my favorite there on the left. ...and yeah, I know.

    +1, my favorite Gibson is a Heritage 535.

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    I bought an es-330TDC in 1968, used, in like new condition. I believe it was made in '63 or a little before, so it's at least ca. 52 years old. Gibson's numbering/dating system is a masterpiece of disorganization, but the guy I bought it from made the original purchase, then went off to war and it wasn't played for 5 years. An odd aside, I lived in Charlotte, Michigan not many miles from Kalamazoo around then. In 1972 I put Humbucking pickups on it replacing the P90's. The hummers were what every guitar player seemed to think were super great. I've been very satisfied with this guitar. If you get a chance, check out Emily Remler playing "Tenor Madness" on Youtube. It looks like her P90's were replaced by hummers. Her 330 looks exactly like mine. Grant Green plays a 330. I've had a few other guitars in my life but the 330, being completely hollow, is so light, easy to handle, has endless tonal capacity and is a dream to play. I love it! John L. in New Mexico

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    I'm going to chime in again. I have owned a 335 for years and years. It is a GREAT thin guitar. It may be THE GREAT thin guitar. I would not, however, consider it to be a thinline guitar--the block makes it more like a solid-body. I owned and gigged with a '62 ES-125T for many years. It is a radically different guitar than the 335. It IS a thinline guitar--hollow, thin, inherently jazzy/bluesy. If anything, it is more jazzy than the ES-330, which is my favorite thinline guitar. The difference--besides cutaways? The bridge. The 125T has the rosewood archtop bridge, whereas the 330 has the tune-o-matic set into the top. This produces an audible difference in tone.

    This said, both the 125 and the 330 are warmer sounding than any 335. Can the 335 cover the jazz scene? This has been proven so many times that it is not necessary to offer any evidence in support of the claim. With a good 2x12" amp (e.g., Twin Reverb, or Lab Series L-5), the ES-335 is capable of being very smoky, very jazzy. Still, the ES-125T or the ES-330 will trump the ES-335 for a more traditional jazz sound. I don't still have all three; I cannot offer a comparison clip. Listen, though, to early Emily Remler--before she gravitated to the Borys archtop. When she subbed in with the Great Guitars, she fit right in.

    [Yes, I know that Gibson called all their 50s, less than 2" thick guitars "thinlines." I, however, distinguish between the hollow ones and the ones with blocks. I like them all. However, the hollow ones sound darker, to me, when you want them to--more like an ES-175.]